This toggle is annoying because what was once 1 press to turn on BT is now 2. It gets me every day.
I don’t want to go conspiracy theory, but in my opinion it feels like a dark pattern to increase the time people have Bluetooth on. I believe they did the same thing with success for Wi-Fi. If I recall correctly, even when you are not connected to a device, Google can estimate your location based on what Wi-Fi networks you are in proximity to and something to varying degrees might work for Bluetooth as well which is why they also roll the feature over to the Bluetooth toggle
Wut. Why would they bother when your cellular connection is constantly pinging all towers to literally triangulate your location? Why do something much more complicated to get data they already have?
The real answer is they are a multi billion dollar company with telemetry. Obviously, the vast majority of people never turn off WiFi or Bluetooth. Most people want quick access to connect to a WiFi network or Bluetooth device, not to toggle either off.
Bluetooth give a lot more information about your surrounding (what device your phone detect or connect, for how much time, distance from objects, etc.), not only from your phone alone, but from other people phones who have bluetooth on and e.g. never disable any tracking from google services too. And the Mac address for bluetooth never change, so any device (and tracking company) will know you is forever you. Bluetooth is a privacy nightmare, and this is totally a dark pattern. People not knowing what they’re doing is of course a thing, but it seems just a usual bad practice by google, who like to manipulate especially not tech-savvy people
I like the way Nothing OS does it. Tapping the icon toggles Bluetooth on/off, and tapping the text/rest of the button opens the popup.The fuck… now i understand why the hell sometimes it opens me that annoying window … It works the same on miui
Same on OneUI, it’s been part of the UX language for a while.
I have the opposite. I have never a reason to turn off Bluetooth, but always want to connect of disconnect devices. this is so much better than long pressing.
My wife’s car is extremely aggressive. The second she turns it on, it steals my Bluetooth connection. I could be mowing my lawn, listening to music on my phone, then suddenly hear nothing, and it’s because my wife got in her car and was suddenly blasted with my tunes.
I tell my phone to forget her car’s Bluetooth connection, but then I’m constantly harassed by pop-ups on my phone every minute saying her car wants to pair with my phone. I can’t get it to stop pinging me. It sees a Bluetooth device in range and then spams it, trying to connect.
So yes, I like to keep my Bluetooth off until I want to use it.
Tell the car to forget your phone?
Have a dig through the cars Bluetooth settings and see if you can delete the pairing from that end.
I’ve done that, but it still pings every Bluetooth connection it sees, whether it recognizes it or not.
Her car had some class-action lawsuit recently because its integrated satellite radio service was constantly pinging for a connection, whether you had the service or not. If the car wasn’t driven in a few days, the battery would be completely drained. And you couldn’t jump it yourself; it had to be towed to a shop so they could use some special machine to jump and charge it.
That issue has been settled, but now its Bluetooth is basically doing the same thing. Fortunately only while the car is on, but still.
Hmm. Well that sucks.
Personally; I refuse to connect a phone to a car via Bluetooth. Too many reports of cars harvesting every available bit of info it can access from the connection and storing/uploading it inaccessible/immovable to the owner.
Aux cable, fm transmitter, or deal with the radio.
Sounds like you need to give it something to connect to. Buy a cheap analog-to Bluetooth transmitter, charge it from the car and just never turn it off. You’d need to do some research to find one which doesn’t go to sleep. If you need to use your phone in the car, just turn the transmitter off.
Sounds like your phone is top priority. Either clear it off the car or move her’s up to the top spot.
Some cars it doesn’t matter - it will attempt to connect to whatever device it sees.
If it happens to see his first, it connects.
I’ve seen these problems for years with integrated BT in cars. I hate it.
The best answer I’ve found is to pair, then turn off all connectivity within that Bluetooth connection on my phone.
Yeah they built this UI on the assumption that people didn’t turn off their BT generally. This is an improvement for me but I really don’t see why they can’t make it an option for people.
It’s not an assumption. They obviously have telemetry that shows the vast majority of people never turn Bluetooth or WiFi off.
…or maybe the people who turn off Bluetooth also tend to disable/block telemetry.
Unfortunately I suppose thats the equivalent of refusing to vote.
