They supposedly can be disabled in settings- but we all know that won’t last. They’re going full Microsoft Skype mode and it’s only a matter of time.
I get so tired of this “servers are expensive” cycle. Anyone know of a good P2P alternative? No servers, no ads, no subscriptions.
Skype was P2P for voice, video and files- only text chat and user discovery had any major server usage so users could receive chats while offline. Microsoft still sought to centralize & monetize it, they actively removed a lot of the P2P networking to “improve user experience”. Any service owned by any profit seeking corporation will have the same end result regardless of the underlying tech; their excuses will just change forms.
Yes, and that will always be the case. But I feel like P2P software tends to get shittier slower. There are probably some open-source solutions out there right now, waiting to be adopted.
Briar, Jami, SimpleX and Tox are all semi similar to what you might be looking for.
Thank you!
we probably need to build it ourselves.
A federated, decentralized system that you can either self-host or join the servers of others, even better if we can offer to donate bandwidth, hosting, and processing power to servers we join in order to distribute the operational strain.
Maybe you want to take a look at Spacebar, a FOSS Discord reimplementation with its own client and server for self-hosting in development
This is the path I was hoping to see Matrix go, but so far I haven’t run across a method of joining servers, or if there is one, I also haven’t actually seen any multi-server groups anywhere. Not that I have much experience with Matrix, so there certainly could be groups like that already?
The closest thing to a Discord server Matrix-wise are Spaces, which basically are groups of Rooms that people can join by invite (and maybe by link? But not sure)
I see in Matrix as a protocol great potential but it needs some more projects that will focus on the different aspects of communication.
Element cannot aim to be both a WhatsApp replacement, a Slack replacement and a Discord replacement, but for sure 3 different alternatives for those services can be built all using the Matrix protocol
Maybe this move by Discord will be an incentive for others to just in and start coding new services to fill the gaps. We can only hope…
Well I guess its done its job for the US Government. Funding has obviously stopped.
Well, that’s what you get for letting a private company replace and open protocol with a proprietary solution because it’s easier to use and has some cute emojis.
I’m kinda sad to see it enshittify, for gamers and for those who find it fits their actual collaboration use case, but I also really hate the number forum-format communities that Discord has displaced or prevented from coalescing. Discoverability on Discord is terrible, as is having help available long term, as well as older advice and other content that helps newbies get the culture of a community. Even where the functionality exists, the general “real time” transitory feel of it reduces the quality of content and encourages people to be dicks, since it will all scroll by or be forgotten (if streaming) in a few moments anyway.
Horses for courses, and my old-ass X-ennial self thinks Discord has been pressed into service on a lot of courses where it’s terrible.
Matrix works pretty good.
At least it is not “Enshittification Continues: Lemmy to begin showing advertisements on it’s fediverse platform”
skype > discord
This is why I set my server up to mirror to a Revolt server (we’re an rp server)
Eventually, folks will want to move, some will say, “But all our posts”, and I can go, “Good news!”
Is revolt a client or a seperate app from discord?
Separate app. There is a bridge bot. It’s effectively part of a Fediverse of chat programs
Same as it ever was.
Not related to the article itself, but I’m curious why use of archive.is has become so popular around here considering that they refuse to provide DNS replies without edns personal information attached? I’m not familiar with the politics involved, but a lot of DNS providers are getting blocked by archive.is for not providing that info, including my own home DNS server and cloud flare 1.1.1.1 and many others, so I’m surprised to see it gaining popularity on Lemmy.
I use the .is link for everything because it’s the only way to reliably get into most of the paywalled articles form sites like WSJ. The other archive sites have already been blacklisted and get served a paywalled copy or blank “please enable javascript” page.
I knew nothing of it’s DNS funkiness.
Do you have an alternative that it would be reasonable for people to know about?
In the past month I noticed ads inside Viber desktop (it’s used a lot here, instead of WhatsApp)
Later I got a call from a friend that his windows defender picked up a trojan in Viber files… Next day I got it too.
I shit you not, they let out an update with malware, on a popular chat app. I uninstalled and got the next update, with blind trust, I can’t migrate atm…
I find it hard to believe viber isn’t some IoT connected sex toy name.
It is possible it was a false positive, though I am not familiar with Viber and its recent history in terms of malware incidents.
Still any platform that serves up ads needs to secure them… and as none bother I simply block all ads.
mmmm, i hate discord, anybody have any good self hosted recommendations? Preferably, fully featured, or featureful, and not some random garb.
Flirting with matrix, the concept fucks. I just haven’t gotten around to doing anything with it yet. I know there area few others, like revolt, which is kind of a mess, and various others in the same category.
Soumds like revolt might be interesting to you.
i’ve messed with it, i know you can technically self host, but last i checked that’s docker only, which is not what im looking for. I want something more stable than revolt, with more features. And i’m not married to the discord UI personally, so anything that does a better job is welcome lol.
Mattermost used to be the go-to alternative, not sure why it is not mentioned yet. Then it looks like Revolt is getting traction now.
mmm, when i click on a website and the first button that appears is “contact sales” i’m sure it’s a good product.
Agreed
IRC.
IRC has been in the back of my mind, not familiar with it other than the fact that it’s ancient as fuck, and it works:tm: so. I’ll probably consider it at some point.
TeamSpeak 3 now has a UI similar to discord.
hmm, interesting. Teamspeak was never really something i’ve bothered looking into. Might give it a look, though to be clear, im not interface picky, i hate discord, through and through, it’s awful.
Needs a license for larger concurrent user counts, which is probably why it fell off in favour of Mumble and then Discord.
If you want to get to know Teamspeak, you could start by trying to share a file with someone on the same server! Good luck have fun!
Mumble is better
Kinda surprised TS is still around. It’s all we used in the ‘00s for gaming, but slowly lost relevance thanks to in-game VoIP and other popular solutions like discord.
Well I am finally ahead of the curve. I mostly stopped using discord after I learned of their horrible privacy practices and braindead statements on e2e encryption.
Long live Matrix!
Vote with your feet. Have to leave the platform if you want to stick it to them.
Easier said than done. All your friends on discord? Can’t leave.
Fair enough.
Maybe everyone agrees it sucks and all change?
Turn it into a group ‘stick it to the man’ effort?
I don’t have friends,.no problem for me 😋
Also,.I’m old and just text my friends!
