Former Indiana governor and candidate for Republican nomination tells Fox News decision ‘should come as no surprise’
Mike Pence will not endorse for president Donald Trump, the man he served as vice-president for four years but whose supporters chanted for Pence to be hanged as they attacked Congress on January 6.
“It should come as no surprise that I will not be endorsing Donald Trump this year,” the former Indiana governor and former candidate for the Republican presidential nomination told Fox News on Friday.
Asked why, given that he previously promised to endorse the eventual nominee, Pence mentioned 6 January 2021, the day a mob attacked Congress and Trump was reported to have told aides Pence “deserved” to be hanged for refusing to block certification of Joe Biden’s 2020 election win.
This means nothing.
it looks like all these people would be ruining their whole careers by doing some of these things, I wonder if a standardly randomized IQ test and public results shoud be a thing for US public servents
Hard no. We’re not “testing” people for public office. Smells too much like testing for the vote.
“Will you endorse the man who tried to send an angry mob to hang you in order to stop the peaceful transition of power in the United States?”
“Probably not.”
It’s crazy that people are acting like this is some brave stance on pence’s part. Jesus, Republicans get to enjoy such a low bar for being praised.
His brother did…
So glad he finally grew a spine. There’s hope for paralyzed people everywhere.
It’s insane how low the bar is for Republicans to be given credit. Doing his job as VP and certifying a lawful election shouldn’t earn him any praise. Not endorsing the man who sent an angry mob to stop him from doing his job shouldn’t earn him any praise.
This is not a man who “grew a spine,” it’s a pile of wet napkins that got slightly more dry.
To hell with that.
It’s only growing a spine if it risks costing you power, pence has none and is losing none. Glad he came out against the fascist, but all that might indicate is some small, at least partial return to and recognition of the rational world. He’s patting himself on the back about how virtuous this may make him seem in history, nothing more.
A sitting Republican Congressperson or party official with no intention of retiring would be demonstrating bravery coming out against the fascist.
Credit due for Pence consulting Dan Quayle and getting sane advice. I’m no fan, but I’ll give him that much.
All true. He probably feels smug about keeping his mouth shut for this long.
I hope history remembers him for continuing to orate with a fly crawling around on his face :-)
Fyi, I didn’t mean to diminish your joke, I just had a pedant moment, apologies.
It’s only be a spine if he gets out there and basically campaigns for Biden. If he asks any remaining same conservatives to abandon the Republican party and join the Democrats, until the Republicans wither and die and the Democrats split into a sane pair of parties that can disagree but compromise like it used to be.
But he won’t do that. None of them have so far.
This is like when eary life evolved a soft-tissue that resembled a spine. It wasn’t a spine, but it resembled one.
Never thought I’d think of a “notochord” in reference to politics, but here we are.
As an aside, I love how ‘notochord’ sounds when it is pronounced. It has a good flow.
Just a big, thick, flaccid, spine-like structure?
I would hope not after the Trump mob tried to hang Pence. What even is this timeline.
not only that, but ask yourself why it was important that he “know” (and trust) the driver of his escape car?
he was afraid trump would disappear him.
LOL, assassination wasn’t in the cards. These idiots thought the process would break if the VP wasn’t present. For what amounts to a formality.
It’s all so dumb and horrific. Shit gave me PTSD and now I know what “triggered” truly means. I can’t watch 60-seconds of video without getting my AR out the safe, checking it, and leaning it on my desk. Talked about fucked up…
And yet, “I know you, I trust you, but I don’t know him” I’d more or less a direct quote from pence about why he refused to get in the truck
Maybe it was in the cards, maybe it wasn’t. Doesn’t change the fact that he believed it. (And also knew that getting him away was already a backup plan. Remember they wanted to hang pence for not going with plan a)
I’m usually on board with you, but I think “disappear” is a bit too far at that stage. More likely it was “sheltered in a secure location” or “sequestered at Andrews AFB,” but either way not to return to Chambers so Grassley could take over and throw the certification to a House vote.
At that stage they’d need the legitimacy of Pence being alive and safe, but unable to perform duties due to the unrest. Hammer and anvil.
Dispose of him later when things are done & dusted with the new regime installed.
Um… Just speculating.
What??
Either way, getting in that truck meant getting dead.
He already refused to play ball. They weren’t going to let him off again.
Just imagine, as we look at all of Trump’s unresolved court cases, that Pence not endorsing him may still end up being the full extent of Trump’s consequences for attempting to overthrow the US government.
We are riding this timeline like a motorcycle at full throttle on the edge of the Grand Canyon.
I’m not sure if this is for Donald Trump or Mike Pence, but either way…
Said the guy they wanted to hang
Only until Trump has a little talk with him.
I guess that probably doesn’t come up that much, so I dunno if there’s much historical data on Presidents who run against their Vice Presidents, but I’m not sure that it’s surprising.
In the US voting system, Presidents and Vice Presidents tend not to be that similar. You tend to choose a running mate to fill in gaps in your own appeal. Pence appeals to social conservatives, which is a weak point for Trump; Trump is gonna appeal to nativists and protectionists.
We used to pick the VP from the opposing party. I’d like to see that again.
The federal government was designed to not work from day one, but they still changed that because it caused it to not work too well.
When the president controls the executive branch and his opponent controls the legislative branch, not even the important stuff gets done.
That’s not totally true. It’s just that 2nd place would become vice president.
And Thomas Jefferson was like “nah fuck that I don’t like Aaron Burr, I rape my slaves and even I think he’s shady as hell”
Endorse Biden you coward. His opponent’s supporters wanted to hang you.
If he did I think he would get legit death threats, there would be a nonzero chance that his constituents would lynch him.
They already tried to lynch him
Mother said no
Or the fly.
Oh look who found their clip-on balls today