• Aleric@lemmy.world
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    Poor kid must have been planting oak trees. The pig thought they were preventing a future massacre.

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    Yep, right up there with that Florida cop freaking out over falling acorns or something.

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    Society failed this boy. More spending on medical research, and care could have prevented this event. But instead we spend way more money on killing more people in other countries. And the medical research could help those who serve in the military as well. But no, must cut those costs as much as posdible.

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    I saw the body cam, that kid was charging at the cop, he wasn’t just sitting in his front lawn taking care of some flowers. The only real question I have is what was that cop doing there in the first place?

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    So for context my local PD dealt with a fine gentleman who attacked a security guard in his car dual wielding a hatchet and metal pipe. They spent several hours trying to talk him down before charging him with a shield and arresting him without much further ado. If you guessed he was white you guessed correctly.

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    Whatever happened to tasers? I guess it’s not that convenient for the police to have someone capable of suing back, makes one wonder how many cases aren’t able to get the attention this kid is.

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    For some reason this is unpopular, but I don’t think a police officer should be allowed to remove their firearm from its holster until actual assault has occurred, unless non-police citizens are in danger.

    A cop merely being scared should never be a reason somebody dies.

    If you can’t handle the pressure, don’t be a fucking cop.

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        I’m autistic, does that automatically make me an incompetent who can act with impunity because I can be impulsive? This logic only hurts the people you’re pretending to help. Law doesn’t care about intent except for sentencing.

        Inside his house, you’d be right and the cop ran away. After he’s outside, he sees it’s a cop, and charges him in anger with a big pointy metal thing. Do you expect the cop to divine someone’s psychological diagnosis? What if it’s a brain tumor that makes him actively murderous? Is everyone in the walking dead committing murder by killing the poor zombies who cannot help themselves?

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          You’re going down a slippery slope there my guy. I’m just saying mental health should always be a consideration. Dude was walking towards the cop at a speed where the cop could have just kicked him down. Or even if he had to use the gun, just immobilize the kid by shooting his legs, not murder them.

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          How nice, you’re highly functioning. Or a lair.

          And if you ARE autistic, which I doubt by your post, you would understand that being impulsive isn’t a choice especially for people on the deeper end of the spectrum. Add being a teenager on top of this and the cop is clearly in the wrong for escalating an already tense situations.

          Because that’s what cops always do, always escalate, always move towards violence.

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        It was and will be ruled so when the investigation is complete. No one wants to see a 15 year old die, but it was clearly justified.

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          Says the person who would have shot grandma for holding on to garden shears as she walks towards you slowly.

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            That’s a different scenario. If someone is slowly advancing, non lethal tools can be used. When someone is charging full speed, they can’t.

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        I’m on the spectrum aswell but I’m under no illusion that it’s going to protect me from violence if I go around physically attacking other people.

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      ‘clearly justified’ for shooting and killing a child point blank for threatening violence with a garden hoe? That officer reacted as if he was being hunted by a monster. You people need to learn some fucking empathy and common sense.

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        Yeah. It sucks, but what did the family expect? They couldn’t control him and as soon as the police arrived he charged them with a weapon. Shit situation, but an entirely justified shooting.

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          So what you are saying is when his parents called the cops, they should have expected their child to be killed in front of them?

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            If they call the cops on an unstable person attacking them with a weapon, he might attack the cops who show up as well.

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              lick that hoof harder, I’m sure it’ll save you if they break into your house serving a warrant to the wrong address and shoot your wife.

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          As if a grown ass officer couldn’t take down a teen wielding some gardening equipment without a lethal weapon.

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            In some cases they can, but here the officer was charged and the attacker was able to get very close, another second and the officer could have been hit and then who knows what would happen. The footage shows a very clear threat.

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    Kid ran towards the officer with an axe, don’t run towards someone with an axe if they have a gun.

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        It’s not a punishment. The cop was defending his own life from a legitimate threat. He could have done things better but this isn’t the unjustifiable killing that people here are trying to make it be.

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          Lol what? A child having a mental health crisis holding anything short of a gun isn’t a reason to shot. It’s argue unless the child has fired that gun at someone still isn’t a good reason to shoot.

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            You seem to be making an assumption that the cop was not in any significant danger here. I don’t understand how you can read the article, watch the video and still reach that conclusion. Look at the pictures. The dude was an absolute stud.

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              I watched the body cam. The cop was retreating, wasn’t cornered, and had size and age on the victim. I work in child care (as a camp counselor) and if I shot a kid every time one became violent (yes even with a “weapon” ) I would be shooting a kid every month. Time and time again it’s been shown that police misjudge the age of minority children by over 5 years. Meaning, I saw a child having a mental health crisis, while this police officer saw a grown man attacking them. That doesn’t mean the kid deserves to die and the police are exonerated. Are you saying every kid that swings a weapon at someone deserves to die? Because that’s were we are headed.

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      You saw everyone else getting downvoted to hell for this bad take, and decided you wanted some too huh? Much obliged.

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    I’ve seen enough body cam incidents to know the papers can say one thing and events depict another. General police guidance of use of lethal force is when there is an imminent danger to safety so it boils down to whether the kid charged a cop or a member of his family or not.

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    There are great questions as to whether it was appropriate to use deadly force against a 15-year-old autistic kid who was having an episode,

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      To the cops? Yes.

      Mental illness is always a license for them to kill, it happens ridiculously often even by statistical count.

      Something about unexpected responses and unpredictable reactions to shouting and gun waving that give the pigs an excuse to shoot.

      Remember that deaf guy that was killed because of his whittling knife? I don’t think the cop suffered any consequences except a paid vacation and an innocent and confused life was lost and the world turns on.

      Just crossing the street and clueless the cop was even calling out and bam bam bam shot from behind and he died bleeding out in confusion and fear.

      And 1/3 of the country applauded the cop for his community centered focus on reducing the number of undesirables.