• Nougat@fedia.io
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    7 months ago

    Just imagine how many infectious diseases could be greatly diminished or eliminated if people, I dunno, listened to healthcare professionals.

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      7 months ago

      Or at least stayed home when they were sick. That was such a nice cultural change from COVID that I really hoped it would stick around. But nope, people went right back to just “toughing it out” and going to work/school while sick.

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        People in my area/life (most) aren’t given sick days and are expected to use their short (if even able) PTO allotments. If they take a vacation and get sick later - their options are work or miss bills. To me, I understand why folks tough it out. I’d like society to care about health for the whole, most can’t afford to do that.

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      7 months ago

      What do you mean by that? Social distancing is mostly what keeps these diseases at bay. But there’s an argument that social distancing comes with a hefty cost as we are a social species.

      Edit: Wow, the circlejerk for certain topics is just as strong on Lemmy as it was on Reddit. I’m sticking with my point, though. Social distancing has heavy costs and is at this point not worth it. Of course people should wear masks if they are sick or if they want to protect themselves. And staying away from people when you’re sick and can do it has always been a good idea.

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        7 months ago

        This genius thinks he figured out what a consensus of medical and science professionals did not factor.

        You know what else has a hefty social cost? Having parents and grandparents die in the family because of lazy scientific illiterate dumbfucks and grifters.

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          No, I did not. That’s why the CDC and other health agencies around the world are no longer recommending social distancing as a general rule. That’s my whole point, when people come along and argue what we could accomplish by continuing the harsh rules from COVID times.

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            7 months ago

            Help me follow your logic when you immediately bring up “social distancing,” from the following message you replied to:

            Just imagine how many infectious diseases could be greatly diminished or eliminated if people, I dunno, listened to healthcare professionals.

            …? Because this feels like a straw-man. The user you replied to said nothing about social distancing. Seemed to be a more generalized comment to me.

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              I jumped there because masks are fine, but the only thing that really keeps infectious diseases at bay is social distancing. Everything else like vaccines, masks and proper hygiene only limits the risks to some degree. Keeping away from other humans is the only thing guaranteed to work. That’s why I assume people mean this when they talk about measures to fight diseases.

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                You’re from a German instance if I understand Lemmy right (and odds are good I don’t), and if that’s the case perhaps you’re not aware that the message above was probably for an American audience because we had a lot of really, really ignorant conservatives under the Republican party banner who completely ignored the science and medical advice of experts, continued to socialize, continued to be anti-vaxx, anti-mask, and spread dangerous unfounded conspiracy theories to the detriment of millions. I’m sure Germany and other nations had a similar issue albeit to a lesser extend from what I understand.

                As the original user said, if more people just heeded the vast consensus of experts in this field on this issue, we’d all be much better off. Instead, they’d rather listen to some right-wing media pundit tell them there is some grand conspiracy because it makes them feel better about themselves or something…

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        Wearing a mask and staying away from people when sick is a much better approach. Also being aware of what being sick even is since some people just kinda ignore their symptoms as “a cold”.

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          I lost all hope when, at the end of the pandemic and the mask mandates, I saw clearly sick people out and about without a mask.
          Like what the heck, wasn’t that enough of a lesson?
          Sometimes I wish that COVID was more virulent than it was because it clearly didn’t traumatise people as much as it should have.

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          Wild pitch… What if we stayed home when we had “just a cold”?

          Colds suck, it’s not macho to spread or be exposed to infectious diseases, and I have no idea why people act like it is

          Everyone should have the ability to take sick days, but a lot of people have the ability to, no questions asked, and still come in to not “waste” PTO. I used to do that too - I didn’t even consider it until COVID

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          The culture I grew up with valued this type of thing.

          Why did you miss work? A cold? If you’re not in the hospital and you’re not here, you are a slacker.

          It doesn’t help when you don’t have any more paid sick time and you need to keep paying the rent.

          It’s so infuriating that it feels like life is structured in such a way that it is difficult or impossible to recover from these types of things without exposing people to your own sickness.

          No excuses for people that are sick don’t stay home when they have the opportunity though.

          ETA: masking does definitely help though and I’m glad the culture doesn’t find it as unusual as before

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            It’s such bullshit. I am ill with a mystery illness that I am going to the Mayo Clinic at the end of the month and have been for over a year now. Before I left my last job, I was told (after being told that they understood that I was sick and to take as much time off as I needed) that I had taken 80 hours of time off in the last year and I had to go on FMLA or quit. So I went on FMLA and then quit because I wasn’t getting any better. It’s been a good thing for a lot of reasons despite going down to a single income, but it’s bullshit that I should be put in that position because of health problems that I could not avoid.