• MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    I know that conservatives tend to go backwards with their ideology construction; instead of starting from axioms to construct their position, they just reach their position from their preconceived notions of what is desirable and good without actual logic behind it… But this is bizarre since their religion (the primary source of their ideology) says to reproduce and have many children as a goal, so wouldn’t a party of Christian values be pro-IVF?

    Maybe I’m expecting too much of them, and there are more Jesse Lobotomy Peterson than I thought…

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      9 months ago

      idk dude, I’d personally be more surprised if that was their platform because while it would still be a horrific violation of human rights, it would be too consistent with itself. I’d probably accuse them of using ChatGPT to write it or something.

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        9 months ago

        You’re probably right, I just remembered Jesse Lobotomy Peterson, and I realise there are enough people on his level, otherwise he wouldn’t have a platform.

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          9 months ago

          The ironic part is that he’s probably actually intelligent and just a malefactor. You need to be at least more intelligent than the people you’re grifting to successfully grift them.

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            9 months ago

            Wait, so that’s an act? How can someone say the things he is saying with a straight face? That’s just Oscar level acting if that’s the case. I just assumed he had 3 brain cells…

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              9 months ago

              I mean perhaps I’m just too cynical, but I expect a lot of these pundits don’t get high off their own supply if you catch my drift. In Peterson’s case, his Wikipedia page has a couple things that smell like grift to me:

              • he used to be a Democrat, claimed that religion made him Republican - looks like pandering
              • he started a business at one point (janitorial services; that’s an essential service, so an entrepreneur can do well in that space)
              • he founded a non-profit with a religious slant that has other conservative pundits on the board - this reeks of a conspiracy to sap money from ignorant people, a.k.a., grift
              • meetings with Toyota executives for some undisclosed reason; I feel like it’s pretty hard to rub shoulders with the big dogs like that if you’re an idiot and didn’t have rich parents, and it doesn’t seem like Peterson came from substantial means
              • multiple publications - the titles read like self-help and “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” drivel with an added dash of racism

              All of that to me reads as a cunning individual that’s using gullible and ignorant people to line his own pockets.

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      9 months ago

      I see your confusion. You expected them to actually read the Bible instead of just using it as an excuse to hurt their opposition.

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        9 months ago

        Well, they like genocide which is presented as a good thing in the bible if I remember correctly (I’m not Christian, so I might be misremembering), they like treating women and children as property like in the bible… I just assumed they read it often for inspiration. But you’re right, they cherry pick the stuff that helps push their agenda.

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      Their religion also says, essentially, to be a socialist, like Jesus was. It’s literally all about forgiveness and making sure the least among us have everything they need. The facts about their religion are only relevant if they support what they were going to do anyway.

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      9 months ago

      It’s sort of an unintended side effect in my interpretation. Their goal was to get every possible fetus legally defined as a child (so that any and all abortions can be considered child murder and outlawed) but got IVF caught in the crossfire, because they handle fertilized eggs, which are the. considered viable fetuses under this definition by the christofascists.