Over 100 children at the school are susceptible to virus.

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    9 months ago

    If I had a time machine, I’d abduct antivaxxers and take them back in time before vaccines existed and ask them to explain their position to someone who lost half a dozen children to now-preventable illnesses.

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    9 months ago

    Wow, who could’ve ever precicted not vaccinating your kids because you saw your neighborhood drunk stay at home mom who believes in healing crystals “explain” why scientists are wrong was a dumb decision that would lead to this ?

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      I am currently ttc and they made me get tested to see how my antibodies were for measles, mumps and rubella (and some other diseases we were vaccinated against in childhood). My rubella antibodies were pretty much non existent now. It can wear off over the decades. Was told I should get the MMR booster before becoming pregnant. So I guess maybe its not a bad idea for us adults to get our antibodies tested, or maybe go ahead and get the booster if its available in your country or area if you are in your thirties or older. Especially since a bunch of parents are no longer vaccinating their children, the herd immunity isn’t protecting those who either were unable to get vaccinated or the antibodies from infection/vaccination have worn off. My stepfather completely lost his hearing in his right ear because he got measles as a boy (before the vaccine was created). So even ignoring the horrible painful rash you get, it can also make you deaf, blind, or kill you. A lot of us have forgotten how damaging these diseases can be, we’ve been spoiled by our vaccine protection. Even if you got your MMR shots as an infant it does wear off and you will no longer be protected by herd immunity.

      edit: i wrote father in law instead of stepfather

      • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world
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        Rubella (german measles) vax is especially important if you’re trying to conceive. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of Gene Tierney, but she was an actress who was on a USO tour during WWII, and was infected with german measles by a fan who had been told to quarantine but did not and came out to meet her anyway. Ms. Tierney was pregnant at the time, and as a result her daughter was born with profound difficulties (deaf, partially blind, severely mentally disabled) from congenital rubella syndrome and ended up institutionalized from the age of 4 for the rest of her life.

        So yes, if you can, definitely get your MMR booster. All three of these diseases are horrible and can have life-long side effects. Best wishes for a healthy baby to you and yours.

        National Library of Medicine Fact Sheet on measles, mumps, and rubella in pregnancy and during breastfeeding: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK582537/

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          I never heard of Gene Tierney, I’ll look at your links. I can’t imagine what it was like for them to know that an ignorant fan caused their child to have such difficulties for the rest of their life. I got MMR booster a couple months ago and my husband is currently getting bloodwork done to see what his titre levels are too. There’s been a concerning uptick of cases where we live and the MMR booster is in shorter supply now so our doctor doesn’t want to give them out unnecessarily if he doesn’t need them.

          Thank you very much for your well wishes, it was nice reading a kind comment (even if I am 2 months late).

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            7 months ago

            It’s all good, glad I could help. Thank you for taking the time to tell me! It’s never too late for a kindness.

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      The CDC doesn’t recommend it in most cases but you can get one. I’m glad you asked because I didn’t realize MMR boosters were even available for adults. My mom has cancer and is on chemo so I think I should get this. If you don’t fit any of the cases that the adult booster is recommended for I suppose you could just say you don’t remember getting it as a child or that you have a close relative with cancer and see if they sticks. But, I mean, I’m not sure if you actually need to justify it. Maybe you can just walk in and get it.

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      Seriously, I’d like to know too. I’ve always thought that you got them and then you were done. But maybe that was counting on there not being a bunch of disease vectors walking around.

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    9 months ago

    Manatee Bay in Weston Florida. I saved you a click.

    It’s a very affluent neighborhood in a very affluent city. Homes start at $1 Million in the entire city. Feel bad for the kids.

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      Great. They just had a huge soccer tournament there this past weekend, with kids (and parents) travelling from all of Florida and out of State. This is going to be 👍

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        If your child is vaccinated then they are 97% protected.

        You’re probably still more statistically likely to get bit by an alligator, or stabbed by a homeless man.

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          You’re probably still more statistically likely to get bit by an alligator, or stabbed by a homeless man

          I mean, we are talking about Florida, so I still don’t like them odds

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          Thats not how statistic work.

          At 97%, a thousand children in attendance were exposed that would translate to 30 vaccinated children being infected.

          If 30 children at the tournament were stabbed by the homeless, it would be international news and be labeled a massacre.

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    9 months ago

    We just need more good guys with guns to fight off the evil Soros measles 5G virus implant.

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    Measles coming back might finally cow those susceptible to antivaxxer propaganda. But it will have to be widespread. People will have to die horrifically before we beat back antivaxxers to a small percentage of the population once again.

    People are too fucking stupid to just get their vaccines unless there is a stick. Carrots don’t work well enough, apparently. Over a disease once considered eliminated, too. I’m salty that people can’t do literally anything for the greater good one a year, or even once every 10 years.

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      Over 500k people died of COVID-19 and yet anti-vaxx still exists and they are still growing in numbers.

      Measles and chicken pox has been coming back for years, they will not change their minds. Unless it happens to them of course.

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      Measles coming back might finally cow those susceptible to antivaxxer propaganda.

      Nah. I used to believe, but not anymore.

      Some Joe Rogan monkey brain who is “just asking questions” will blame their followers for not doing their own research with their dead kids.

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    I think this is Nature’s way of reducing the population of stupid people. If you’re too dumb to listen to the advice of scientists, you’re probably too ignorant to survive in modern society. I feel sad for the waste of humanity but I have no control over your stupidity.

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      The issue is that it’s impacting the children of stupid people (who very well may already be vaccinated). I find it difficult to rejoice in the suffering of innocent people for the actions of another.

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        Oh absolutely! I apologize for not making it clear that I blame these stupid people for their stupidity.

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        Lol “survive” on a longer biological scale means living AND reproducing. These idiots are capping off their own bloodlines

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        While not always the case, the children of stupid people often become the next generation of stupid people.

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    Hey guys, thanks to anti-vax grifter podcasts we now have diseases we had almost defeated circulating again! Humans are so cool!

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        I feel such deep and powerful hatred because it’s not just a sudden illness that goes away. People don’t realize that not only will some of these children die but some of them will develop lifelong debilitating illness such as central nervous system diseases including SSPE as well as a type of AIDs. Viruses cause permanent damage.

        In the same way that Polio can cripple people, Chickenpox can cause shingles, and the Spanish Flu lead to a worldwide outbreak of Encephalitis Lethargica characterized by a chronic loss of consciousness trapping you inside your own body like a prison.

        Those people are subjecting this to children. If I wrote the laws, this would be a crime punished on the same level as murder.

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      9 months ago

      Right?!

      The solution to this problem isn’t just “within your reach” IT’S IN YOUR FUCKING HAND!!!

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      Unless of course they can get an exemption, and antivaxers are absolutely not afraid to shop for an exemption that fits their needs.

      I applied to a desk job at a hospital in 2022 and in the initial call to interview the lady said to me “now we are required by the federal government to have all employees be fully vaccinated against COVID” and before I could even react or say anything she added “but don’t worry there’s a ton of exemptions for that! Would you like to talk about the exemptions?” To which I just said “I’m already fully vaccinated, so that won’t be necessary” and her reaction seemed to be genuine shock and surprise at that answer

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        We take our pets to the vet for their annual checkups (honestly, caring for them better than I do myself, at least in that respect - I’m terrible about seeing the doctor other than when something is wrong). One time, the vet (one we hadn’t seen before) noted that one of the pets was due for one of his regular shots, like the rabies vaccine. She was kind of holding her breath until we responded, “Sure, go ahead and do that.” We could see that she was concerned about what our reaction to that would be.

        It has gone that far…people not even vaccinating their pets.

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    If this continues for a couple of generations we will have weeded out the idiots, fucking bullshit it comes at the cost of innocent children.