• Aermis@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Am American living in the city with 8 chickens. The only scary thing is seeing eggs in the market go for $10/dozen

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      Wow, that’s crazy. It’s €4.49/10 here tax included for the fancy free range, low volume farm ones from a not-cheap supermarket.

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        3.2USD here for a dozen cage-free brown eggs!

        My folks’ chickens’ eggs have orange-r yolks tho.

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        Miss living near the Amish. They have these cute big families with so many children and agricultural stuff for low prices. I would love to convince them to somehow some way homestead in my city.

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          Funny, as someone who works intimately with them I find myself distrusting them. They are great at putting on the “old timey, super genuine sweet Christian folk” persona but don’t get it wrong. Their ideology spreads like a cancer around here. They breed like crazy, buy up all the private land, displace other locals with their farms, eschew environmentally friendly agricultural practice to save money, their buggies destroy the roads and cause terrible fatal accidents. It’s not to say they’re all bad but they’re absolutely a highly insular cult and they have no problem turning on outsiders to further their society.

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            displace other locals with their farms, es

            Meh I am not sure how people stuck on old tech are so much better at farming that they can outcompete modern farms. How bad at your job can you be to have your ass handed to you by the 17th century?

            Kinda getting tired of the whole “my life sucks because I am lazy let me get angry at people who are actually successful”. Tall poppy syndrome is running rampant, especially in rural America. You can thank me for paying for your roads btw.

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            buggies destroy the roads

            How? I’d always heard that heavier vehicles do more damage to roads, so I’d expect buggies to be on par with bicycles or maybe motorcycles.

            cause fatal accidents

            I’m curious about this one, too. Do they tend to drive erratically? I’d think their slower top speeds would make it easier to avoid accidents.

  • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I want my eggs washed because I deal with enough shit, literal and metaphorical, in my every day life, that I dont want to start my day off with it during breakfast.

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    I know right, why are we so uptight? Who wouldn’t want their eggs covered in crusty vaginal residue and dirty feathers? THAT’S WHAT REALLY SEALS IN THE FLAVOR!!! 🤢🤢🤢🤮

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      Most of us in Europe don’t eat the shells, actually.

      Then again, who wouldn’t want their eggs washed off with god knows what kind of chemicals that remove the natural protective membrane from the shells, so now you have to store the eggs in the fridge rather than just the shelf?

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        Never! I always crack eggs PERFECTLY so that it splits cleanly in half with no shards and the egg inside never touches the outside of the shell… 😰

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          There’s actually a membrane on the inside of the shell, I didn’t learn to crack an egg in half cleanly until a few years ago.

          If you shatter a bit of the side, you can take both hands and pull it apart with both hands… It’s hard to describe, but you grab all the fragments with your fingers and then rip the membrane. It gets goop on your fingertips and a handful of shell shards, but it’s extremely easy to get all the shards, and the insides don’t come near the shell.

          Instead of learning to get the force right, you can drop it 4-6 inches flat onto a countertop and it’ll break the shell without breaking the membrane

          You could also wash it if you’re really worried, I wash my hands every time I touch egg goop anyways. It’s also probably about to be cooked, so it’s not like it’s a health risk.

          But they taste better and last much longer… even unrefrigerated. I always get fresh local eggs when I get the chance, it’s worth the initial grossness (I was very skeptical at first, but after I ate the first one I got over it)

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      I mean, you can just wash the egg before cooking with it, like you do with potatoes or other vegetables.

      I’m not overly bothered by the need to refrigerate my eggs, but also it wouldn’t bother me to rinse crap off one more ingredient before cooking.

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    As an American, I cannot legally touch any egg that hasn’t been ultra-pasteurized followed by continuous cold chain refrigeration and served in either a Styrofoam or pulped paper cardboard egg carton.

  • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    Not Americans that are used to eating farm fresh eggs from the local farmers market. I lived in downtown Austin until recently and getting freshly picked produce from local and urban farms every Saturday was one of my favorite parts of my week.

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    Can confirm. We (in US) have chickens and whenever we gift eggs to people they’re astounded that they don’t need to be refrigerated but also sometimes horrified that they aren’t washed.

    Granted, I keep the eggs that get poopy for myself so they don’t get tossed out by an overly cautious person. I just rinse them immediately before use if they’re very dirty. Occasionally one of the hens will have an “accident” and lay an egg in the dirt outside or on the coop floor. Otherwise they look generally like the pic above.

    I’ve yet to have a rotten egg and at times we’ve gotten behind by over a month… Still good, sitting on the counter for a month.

    Fun info, I’m currently eating through some “water glassed” eggs that I stored in May of 2023. Still good.

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      I have looked up “water glassed eggs” and while it does look interesting as a scientific experiment, I’m reasonably certain that you’re a psychopath

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        Hahah yeah water glassing is kind of a throwback that helps keep them even through temp variations. We did an experiment back when we had a homestead a few years ago, where we cleaned any nasties if there were any and then dipped the eggs in oil and kept them in a cool room.

        We came back every three months to try an egg. We ended the experiment at 2 years after which 25% of them began to float. The rest were still edible but the yolk wouldn’t stay together when cracked.

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          Yeah, at ~8 months these are about 50/50 on whether the yolks hold together. Still taste fine though.

          I decided to give it a try since in the spring/summer they were laying way more than we could keep up with … But mostly because I thought it was interesting and wanted to try it :D

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    Am American. Used to have to get those eggs out from under the chickens who wanted to sit on them and get the shit pecked out of me before school everyday.

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    It doesn’t scare us, we want this. I’d love to see you win vs the chicken industry. They would stomp your ass to the ground like they do to all the chickens!

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      That’s ridiculous, chickens don’t have asses. When’s the last time you went to KFC and ordered a bucket of wings, breasts, and asses?

      Sidenote: my phone thnks the word breasts must be changed to breaststroke every time.

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            So I’ve thought about the chicken and the egg issue. Wouldn’t it be the egg first since it contained an evolved spices that we currently call the chicken? The one that produced it doesn’t have to be a chicken, only that it produced a mutated offspring whose egg contained the chicken.

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              It’s more like the egg contained something slightly different from the mother, and that trend continues for thousands and thousands of “iterations” until eventually it’s completely distinct from that “first” one. There shouldn’t be any species that gives birth to something completely different where it’s protochicken straight to chicken.

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                That’s kinda what I’m getting at, in that at some point you draw the line on what is a “chicken” vs what isn’t a chicken.

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          You’re both misinformed. Honey doesn’t come either out of a bee’s anus nor out of a bee’s cloaca. It comes out of the mouth. Bees don’t even have a cloaca. Chickens though do have a cloaca and that’s where the eggs come out.

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    In the US, there’s a concern for salmonella or other bacteria and viruses. Factory egg farming is a horror show in regards to overcrowding and hygiene. Sick birds are crammed in with healthy laying birds, and washing the eggs is one of the safest ways to prevent contamination.

    It does increase the permeability of the shell, decreasing shelf life and requiring refrigeration.

    If your eggs looked like this in the USA, there’s a small but non-zero chance that you’ll shit yourself to death. Probably not, but it’s scary enough.

    We could improve factory farming regulations so it’s not a like a Cronenberg movie, but then eggs would be more expensive. And even if we did, and stopped washing our eggs, Americans would still want them to look clean and would still keep them in the fridge because we’ve been conditioned to expect to die on the toilet covered in wet feces if we see bird poop on the eggs.

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      Chickens are vaccinated against salmonella (and a bunch of other things) when they are chicks in Europe. It means you don’t need to worry about shitting yourself to death, the chickens are slightly happier by not being sick, and your eggs stay fresher for longer.

      It would probably add $0.005 per egg, so US producers will claim it’s communism if a regulation is brought in to vaccinate chicken, but it would be worth doing.

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        Fuckin finally. The tryna high road the Europe and shit like they don’t have poor chicken treatment situations too. Its all down to vaccination requirements. They the treatment of chickens cause both places have issues lol

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        Refrigerating the eggs end to end costs money too, possibly more. I don’t think it’s about ongoing cost but rather upfront cost to switching.

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        You mean you put 5G tracking devices in your chickens?

        Really, though, getting poultry farmers to spend a penny per dozen eggs is like trying to squeeze water from a rock.

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          Yeah, it helps one find them if they run away

          They’ve made a documentary about it back in the day: chicken run (2000) movie screenshot

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            They recently made a new one with up-to-date info on the security of those chickens

    • Justin@lemmy.jlh.name
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      Keeping unwashed eggs in the fridge at home helps them last longer, as long as you don’t leave them out to sweat.

      But yeah here in Sweden, we rarely ever get salmonella recalls since the chickens aren’t strapped to a box here.

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      Fwiw, the eggs wouldn’t have to be more expensive, the eggs cost what the market will pay.

      The only change is that the people profiting from your poor food conditions will profit slightly less.

      This is a common lie they tell everyone.

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        Store bought anything is pretty bad nowadays, at least speaking as an American.

        Produce often has listeria, ecoli, salmonella, etc outbreaks, it’s ridiculous. Extends to eggs, spinach, lettuce, radishes…anything. Going vegan doesn’t solve this problem unless you’re only eating what you grow at home.

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        But eggs are yummy. Baked goods, thickened sauces, omelettes and deviled eggs and egg salad, you can’t really replace them with vegan alternatives. Aquafaba is pretty close for some of it, but people like their eggs and don’t care about how much their food suffers before we eat it.

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        It is way too challenging in my mind at least. I do one meat meal a week and veg the rest. All the fun stuff has milk and eggs in it.

        But hey you do it if it makes you happy.

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      If your eggs looked like this in the USA, there’s a small but non-zero chance that you’ll shit yourself to death. Probably not, but it’s scary enough.

      Unless you got it from your own chicken coop

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    I still don’t get why you wouldn’t still put those eggs on the refrigerator. They will stay fresher longer!

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        I don’t see how. In any case, I see zero advantage to NOT storing them in the fridge.

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      Fresh eggs at room temp will stay good for 2 - 4 weeks at room temperature, 3-6 months refrigerated. If you need to refrigerate fresh eggs, you have too many chickens

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        Eggs don’t instantly degrade from good to bad overnight. They slowly degrade with weakening membranes and what not. As I said, they stay freshER.

        I get unwashed eggs from a farm whenever I can. I still put my eggs in the fridge. And the yolks stay nice and unbroken when making eggs over easy, as I like them.