People keep talking about “Federalizing the National Guard” and now you’ve got other States pledging their NG to Texas in defiance of the Supreme Court (see image).

So is this what CW2 looks like?

P.S. I’m a Brit

    • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
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      9 months ago

      Better yet, can we have a government that doesn’t pretend things are fine and actually doe something about the fucking fascists?

    • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Can we just have a normal, boring year for once, please? I’m so tired…

      I’m right there with you.

      But at least you can think of this to console you: You’re not actually fighting in a world/civil war, down in some troops trench somewhere, reading this (at least that’s my hope for you).

      Other generations have had to go through major wars, but so far we’ve been dodging that bullet, for the most part.

      Things could be a lot worse.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    9 months ago

    What is curious to me is these are state departments disagreeing, though the previous civil war was fought between federal and state governments with raised armies.

    This time I was expecting the police vs. militants. Uncontrolled civil unrest. Portland and Minneapolis but spread across the nation, cranked to eleven.

    • Grimy@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      We thought we were getting a proper class war and instead we get fascist versus not fascists but they still hate you

    • BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org
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      9 months ago

      Portland and Minneapolis? So like, a protest/campout in one or two square blocks while everyone else goes about their normal business?

  • OpenStars@startrek.websiteEnglish
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    9 months ago

    I read how most experts agree that there will be some kind of “constitutional crisis” within the next decade. The impeachment 1, impeachment 2, and January 6 attacks already show the rumblings of what is to come.

    Personally I find it doubtful that a full civil war would be the means though bc of the disparity b/t military resources at the federal vs. lower levels. Thus, probably something else, perhaps extremely mundane e.g. Trump runs for President, and bc of the Israeli conflict in Gaza and whatever else Russia manufactures between now and then Biden loses, then Trump simply declares himself Emperor.

    Or maybe even that much paperwork will not happen and the government will simply never pass another federal budget again, thus ending the federal level by default of obstruction.

    So probably not Civil War, at this time and over this event (no matter how much the clickbait media tries to get its clicks), but even so… something is coming indeed, down the road in some form.

  • DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyzEnglish
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    9 months ago

    Seems to be a distinct possibility. Posturing prior to the election, rattling sabers, they’re spoiling for a full-on shootin’ war contingent on losing the election, in my opinion.

  • Jaysyn@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    This is exactly why DeSantis wants to revive the Florida State Guard.

    Biden should ignore Abbott right until the point he signs an order to interfere with Federal agents on duty. Then it’s a conspiracy & the Insurrection Act can be brought into play to clean house.

  • shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
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    9 months ago

    The US is the next empire to fall. I am a US citizen and i am taking steps to GTFO if needed. I have an e-residency and ID card from another nation and am working up to the investment for full citizenship.

    • Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee
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      9 months ago

      I mean, the issue is that most of the rest of the so called free World (and in my opinion correctly so), especially Europe, depends on the US for defence, specially weapon production. Despite France constantly whining about it, insisting on strategic autonomy, as far as I am aware, when it comes to ammo production and air power, we very much depend on the US for production and designs (the design when it comes to aircraft)

      • shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
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        9 months ago

        The United States military should scale way back, but the European military would have to increase because of what you mentioned with designs for specialty weapons.

        • Kidplayer_666@lemm.eeEnglish
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          9 months ago

          We have reasonable designs for almost all weapon categories, except maybe for airplanes, with the latest being the Eurofighter which is by now a bit dated. Regarding Tanks, the German Leopard is as far as I am aware a fine piece of engineering as well as the belgian FN-SCAR. However we lack the ammo capabilities (especially when it comes to artillery shells) to ever have hope of winning a protracted war (or simply keeping Ukraine alive). (also, quick side note, France also spends a great deal of money maintaining their own nuclear arsenal and weapons delivery system, which kinda makes the UK seem a bit puny with their dependence of the US for weapon delivery)

  • kandoh@reddthat.com
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    9 months ago

    The Governors are unserious idiots playing with fire hoping they won’t get burned by a rando of their idiot base taking it too far.

    The real risk for Americans remains a situation like The Troubles, not armed conflict between states and the federal government.