• southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    It’s kinda crazy that it took the combined culinary efforts of at least 4 nations to create something genius that would piss off all of those nations.

    Also, pineapple on pizza is fucking delicious, and I will fight over that personal opinion being as valid as it sucking :)

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      9 months ago

      Whats even crazier is the ethnobotanical path to GET those ingredients together.

      Tomatoes had to be brought from south america. Bred to grow at lower altitudes. Peasants had to be persuaded to eat them (they were formally animal feed because they were from the nightshade family and peasants didn’t trust the fruit not to be poisonous since the leaves are) and then enough time (100 years) had to pass for them to develop cuisine around them.

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      9 months ago

      Hey, I’m with you. I think it’s awful and that the people who enjoy it should be taken out back and shot.

      But I just don’t have the energy to take my wife out back and shoot her.

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    9 months ago

    A fruit native to Brazil. We call it “pizza hawaii” in the Netherlands and it’s tasty. Ananas, ham and cheese, perfection I say, pizza puritans be damned.

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      9 months ago

      I’m not too sure if pineapples are native from the lands currently controlled by Brazil, Paraguay, or both. The Amerindians farmed them quite a bit, so they spread even to to a chunk of North America; and the native range of a relative hints me that the genus originated further west.

      That’s just a guess though - the point is that nobody knows for sure.

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      9 months ago

      I personally cannot stand pineapple on my pizza (despite wanting to like it). And really do not care what other people put on their food.

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      9 months ago

      The idea reminds me Roman (as in the city, not the empire) pizza al taglio.

      I wonder how they’re baking the dough. A 100m large oven? Roll in, roll out? Multiple separated chunks? Baking it rolled, then unrolling it?

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    9 months ago

    It gets even messier.

    Modern tomato sauce used in pizza is a variation of the sauce in southern Italy. People were cultivating tomatoes there after they were introduced by Spain, that controlled both that region and the North American lands formerly controlled by the Aztec city-States (nowadays by Mexico).

    Where are tomatoes from? South America. Yup. The lands are today Peru’s and/or Ecuador’s. Likely domesticated way before Cuzco/Inca expanded over the region. In the meantime, the pineapples being put over the pizza are from another region, the Paraná basin (currently controlled by Brazil and Paraguay).

    Then you got the dough. Wheat was domesticated somewhere in the Fertile Crescent; I think that the lands currently controlled by Iraq should be a safe bet. In special, Eastern Rome (aka Byzantium) used to control Naples too, spreading πίτα/pita (a type of flat bread) again into the region. (I say “again” because the Aeneid already talks about pizza, in Republican times.)

    Cows (for the cheese) were domesticated a bit further to the west, probably what’s today controlled by Syria… well, at least one of the times, because you can almost hear haunting zebu moos from what’s controlled now by Pakistan. (I believe that most domestic breeds should be a cross between both, with varied amounts of zebu x taurus. And perhaps a third stock from the Maghreb.)

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    9 months ago

    The Germans seem to think they invented it. Order it in Sweden, and it’ll come with bananas.

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      9 months ago

      Don’t forget the curry. The bananas always must come with curry, but the cardamom goes in the pastries.

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      9 months ago

      Honesty that’d probably be better. Ham is so bland on pizza; it can’t compete with the sauce. I always do pineapple and pepperoni. The spice from the pepperoni cuts through the sweetness really nicely.

  • neo2478@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    Whats a Canadian from Greece? Was the guy Greek living in Canada? Doesn’t that just make him Greek? Or was it a person born in Canada with Greek ancestry? That would not make him from Greece.

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    9 months ago

    I go to Italy often just to eat real Italian food. I understand that for Italians, the hawainana pizza is an aberration, like many other things if not cooked as they traditionally do. And I respect it, because it’s a key part of their culture. Still, I have a right to eat and like whatever I want, so I also expect respect on that sense. Some people will do this and some others won’t. I think it’s a personal choice to decide respecting others opinions.

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      9 months ago

      They don’t have to serve you what you want if it’s not on the menu, they can try to accommodate if they really want but that’s about it.

      But if you don’t have the ingredients they cannot really do that can they.

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        9 months ago

        I get that shit ALL the time. I have 34 wing flavours, a number of them address the sweet n savoury/sour thing I personally detest. I don’t carry the disgusting bulk sweet n sour sugar sauce common to this region and continually get people staring at the 34 flavours and and ask “do you have honey mustard or sweet n sour”? No. I don’t. That’s not what I’m doing here, if I had that, it would be listed. Literally every other place has that, I’m fucking trying to impart some taste to the region no matter how miniscule.