Apple: what’s wrong with just 8GB RAM?
At least it should result in less laptops being made with ridiculously small amounts of non upgradable RAM.
Requiring a large amount of compute power for AI is just stupid though. It will probably come in the form of some sort of dedicated AI accelerator that’s not usable for general purpose computing.
And remember that your data and telemetry are sent to Microsoft servers to train Copilot AI. You may also need to subscribe to some advanced AI features
And that’s when I’ll start using Linux as my daily driver.
Honestly installing Ubuntu is almost idiot proof at this point.
I do agree with you, the obstacle is that there are many applications that are not available on Linux or they’re not as powerful as on Windows. As for me is MS. Excel, many of my office clients use VBA in Excel spreadsheet to do calculations.
At least we might have a finally viable replacement in Photoshop soon. GIMP is getting NDE, Krita might be getting foreground extraction tool at some point, and Pixellator might have better tools though it’s NDE department is solid. The thing is all of them are missing something, but I’m betting on GIMP after CMYK_Student arrival to GIMP development.
I tried adding foreground selection based on guided selection, but was unable to fix noises on in-between selection and was unable to build Krita. We would have Krita with foreground selection if it weren’t for that.
I know that you are speaking truth, yet it still hurts
Thus, Windows will again be instrumental in driving growth for the minimum memory capacity acceptable in new PCs.
I love that the primary driver towards more powerful hardware is Windows just bloating itself bigger and bigger. It’s a grift in its own way, consumers are subsidizing the requirements for Microsoft’s idiotic data processing. And MSFT is not alone in this, Google doing away with cookies also conveniently shifts away most ad processing from their servers into Chrome (while killing their competition).
no ai ain’t gonna come into my pc
Personally I really want it to but only locally run AI like lamma or whatever it’s called
Do it, it’s easy and fun and you’ll learn about the actual capabilities of the tech. Started a week ago and I’m a convert on the utility of local AI. Got to go back to Reddit for it but r/localllama has tons of good info. You can actually run useful models at a conversational pace.
This whole thread is silly because VRAM is what you need, I’m running some pretty good coding and general knowledge models in a 12GB Radeon. Almost none of my 32GB system ram is used lol either Microsoft is out of touch or hiding an amazing new algorithm
Running in system ram works but the processing is painfully slow on the regular CPU, over 10x slower
Just downloaded gpt4all and lm studio or whatever. I’m learning slowly but there’s a lot of jargon. I only have the 4GB Rx 5500 and I’m not sure how to get it to run on my GPU. I think I really just need to upgrade my PC tho. I have 16GB of ram but an i5-6500. Shit be slow
Start off with the Tinyllama model, it’s under 1gb. It will even run on raspberry pi so on real PCs it rips even on CPU. You need a “quantized” model, they are distributed as GGUF files.
I would recommend 5 bit quantized. The less bits, the stupider to put it simply, and Tinyllama is already pretty stupid. But it’s still impressive for what it is, and you can learn the jargon which is the hard part.
Fastest software to run the model on is llama.cpp which is a rewrite from python to C++. Use -ngl <number> to offload layers from cpu to GPU.
Not sure what system you’re using, most AI development is done on Linux so if you’re on Windows I can’t guarantee anything will work.
Working right now on making a voice assistant for my house that can read all my MQTT data and give status reports, it’s neat when you get it running. Fun to tweak it with prompts and see what it can do. Tinyllama can’t seem to reliably handle MQTT and JSON but slightly smarter models can with ease.
Unless it’s locally hosted, doesn’t scan every single file on my storage and doesn’t send everything I do with it to the manufacturer’s server.
“Wanna see me fill entire landfills with e-waste due to bullshit minimum requirements?”
“Wanna see me do it again?”
All I can think of:
Hi kids, do you like violence? Wanna see me stick nine-inch nails through each one of my eyelids? Wanna copy me and do exactly like I did? Try 'cid and get fucked up worse than my life is?
Great, so it’ll take AI to set 16GB as minimum.
I still shudder that there are machines still being sold with 8GB RAM, that’s just barely enough.
Everyone here is like praising microsoft when in fact you can just buy any pc’s with 16 gig ram without the additional ai spyware and (cost if i may assume)
my work laptop came with only 8 and can’t be upgraded. The next model up was twice the price
Wow. My thinkpad t420 has 8 gigs, but that thing was made in 2011
And you think microsoft will give you 16 gig laps at 8 gig price . also why is it twice the price does it only have improvement of ram i doubt that
They are making for a long time now, a massive slow effort to make end users finally migrate to Linux (and I’m a whole life windows guy)
Microsoft is desperate to regain the power they had on the 00s and is desperately claiming trying to find that killer app. At least this time they’re not just copying apples homework.
They either force it on everyone or bundle it in the enterprise package businesses already pay for and then raise the price.
It never works, but maybe this time it will. I mean it won’t… But maybe.
And maybe that’s why it isn’t working. They try too hard to persuade or force you, giving people icky feelings from the get go… and they try too little to just make a product that people want.
what the fuck is a “AI PC”?
It means “VC money now 🥺🥺”
Microsoft is chasing VC money now?
Not VC, more like hedge funds and institutional investors. But yes, all public companies work primarily for higher share prices, and then everything else. I’ve experienced a public US company paying more than a million USD to save 300k just so they can put out good articles about themselves that they kept promises to shareholders.
They get to put a sticker on that inflates the value by $600, then fill it with spyware.
sounds amazing
Found the shareholder.
Ah good. Now I know what specs not to buy.
