I like ep7 honestly. It has problem, but it’s also…fun? Ep8 is pure nonsense(carpet bomber in space…? Jedi leia?) and it makes me drop the whole franchise. I heard ep9 is even more nonsense.
I fell asleep watching ep1 lol.
In fairness, all the space combat in Star Wars is nonsense. It’s modeled on WW2-era dogfighting (hence the bombers), and none of it makes any sense in space.
Anything before makes some sense, but a sloooooow moving carpet bomber that only works when on top of other spacecraft? I find it hard to believe it’s mass produced, that’s where i have to suspend my logical sense on top of my disbelieve for it to make sense, and it’s only one small part of the problem.
Personally I don’t think it’s any worse than anything else in Star Wars.
Like the “blockade” formation in TPM - that would never even kind of work to shut down traffic, planets are BIG and incoming ships could simply go around the blockade ships.
Or Jango Fett’s bass bombs in episode 2 shattering asteroids with shock waves - how are they propagating with no medium to propagate through?
Or the trench run in ANH, and luke’s torpedo turning 90 degrees on a dime to go down the vent - why were they approaching from that angle in the first place? How does the torpedo just, suddenly change direction?
Or primitive teddy-bear aliens using rocks and sticks to absolutely ROFLstomp a galaxy-spanning empire armed with high-tech sci-fi superweapons in RotJ - imagine if the US failed to invaded Sentinel Island. Is that even distantly believable or realistic?
Or the way ships apparently have gravity at all times no matter what - in fact explaining it away with “artificial gravity generators” would lend itself to bombs dropped into that artificial gravity well making some kind of sense as a tactic, no?
Or lightsabers being lasers that just… stop. and are semisolid, somehow… lightsabers don’t make a single lick of sense but they look wizard af.
Or like a billion other things in Star Wars that are nonsensical but visually fantastic, because you’re not meant to think that hard about it, and most people who do seem to do so selectively based on whether they want to like the movie.
This is some dumbass elitism. Let people enjoy what they enjoy. Star Wars is a space fantasy. Rey gets Jar Jar pregnant in the lost 10th movie. It was glorious.
No, people must know that their enjoyment is wrong!!! ;P
Regardless of genre any work of fiction should have cohesive plot and characterization. It’s not elitism to say that the new trilogy is hobbled by numerous, avoidable writing pitfalls.
The other films had writing problems as well but not nearly as many as the new films. People are free to enjoy the new trilogy but they are poorly written.
And yes, I’m aware of how fucking cringe the dialogue in the prequels was.
Art and entertainment must always fall within my predetermined understanding and preferences. Anything straying from this template is bad and must be opposed. Anyone who doesn’t think this way is morally wrong and also must be opposed.
Stop taking your entire life this seriously. Not everything’s perfect. You alone cannot steer how the film industry depicts Star Wars. Boo hoo.
Well if that isn’t putting words in my mouth I don’t know what is.
It was the exact sentiment of your comment.
People are allowed to like things you don’t like. I feel sorry for people like you who literally work yourselves up into such a rage because some piece of entertainment didn’t pan out the way you wanted. Best of luck in life with that attitude!
Only one of us is worked up into a rage.
It ain’t me.
In ten years people will simp for the Sequels and shit on… whatever the newest movie is… “The new protag’s not as cool as Rey!!1111”
It’ll happen
We’ve seen it before with the prequels.
This meme wouldn’t fly like 18 years ago. Prequels sparking joy? Please, not the Phantom Menace.
Were you around in the late 90s-early 2000s? Because let me tell you that the prequels did not spark joy for people then. It was insane the amount of hate leveled at Ep 1-3. Hell kids at Jake Lloyd’s school bullied him so hard he quit acting.
So you never know, 7-9 might spark joy for people in 20 years.
It’s wild how people pretend that the prequels weren’t hated by a bunch of people. Like, the Plinkett Reviews of the prequels were legendary YouTube videos for years before people started ironically memeing the prequels in, like, 2016.
Corrective surgery for this woman’s face?
Zoomers memed themselves into liking them. I’m amazed
Speaking as someone who actively despised the prequels when they came out, and has only learned to unclench my teeth in anger at their existence after a long process of maturation and philosophical introspection, I can’t wait to see the next generation of people getting furious when the sequels have been out long enough for new young fans to grow up and embrace them the same way the prequels were. It was horrible and difficult for me to go through, so it’s only fair that others should have to witness that process as well.
I know, right? As a huge Star Wars nerd who was in middle school when 1 came out, I didn’t even bother to go see 2 in theaters, and to this day I still haven’t seen 3 all the way through because I have such a bad taste in my mouth.
In fact, the way Lucas shit all over the established lore and canon to produce such a flaming turd turned me off to the entire IP and I didn’t read a Star Wars book or watch a show/movie until I gave Ep 7 a try because my FiL wanted to see it in the theater. That one I actually enjoyed (contrary to popular opinion), and I’ll say that the first season of Mandalorian and Bad Batch was decent, too. I haven’t seen Andor, but I probably will based on everyone’s reviews.
But the last Star Wars work that I still actually like and that I still think stands on its own two feet was Empire Strikes Back.
Back then we didn’t know how bad it could get. The Prequels were bad, but you know what? The Sequels retroactively made the Prequels look like masterpieces.
No, they were still bad. I thought the same as you and watched them again. It all just felt awkward.
Episode 7 is no masterpiece, but it is infinitely more watchable for me than Episode 1. The initial conflict is just confusing as far as motivation, young Anakin and Jar Jar are both obnoxious as hell, and the acting is not great. The Darth Maul fight and the pod race are about the only parts of the movie that I remember fondly.
Well of course it is just a copy of A new hope after all.
Serious question, how often have you rewatched the prequel trilogy? Say what you want about the sequel trilogy, but at least it can be entertaining. The prequels can be so boring.
A couple times. I found the sequels to be much worse movies than the prequels. I mean, episode 7 is okay-ish. It’s mostly episode 4 again. Episode 8 shit the bed. I didn’t watch 9. The original trilogy is a good story.
Episode 3 is genuinely good for me, I like as a kid and I still like it, the others 2 is really boring
I have no desire to watch the prequels or sequels again, but if I had to pick one to watch it would be the prequels.
I member when this meme would’ve been OT vs prequels… Now I’m not bold enough to say we’ll ever see the sequels redeemed and considered at least passable/sparks joy, but I’m also old and realize they weren’t really made for me. Then again the prequels kinda were and I kinda hated them as a kid (aside from 3)…
I watched them recently, they’re worse than I remember for sure. There are still fun things about them. But they’re not particularly good movies. I think the same thing can be said about the sequels
with the prequels its mostly just the first one. Darth maul is the only good thing it had and they killed him like right off the bat. make 2 one, the clone wars cartoon as 2 and 3 stays three and it would not be to bad a trilogy.
In my opinion the bad movie is really the second one. You can cut that movie almost completely. There’s like 2-3 scenes of actually trilogi plot relevant stuff in there and so much crap. Even as a kid I absolutely hated ping-pong ball Yoda.
The majority sets up the Clone wars tv-series which is great and where you actually see Anakin develop as a character and towards the dark side, the stuff in AotC is just not it.
The dialogue is worse than any other Star Wars movie without any contest. Pretty much every line that gets memed on is from AotC.
It’s an action movie with some cool fighting for sure, but that has never been the appeal of Star Wars to me. As such it’s to this date the second worst Star Wars movie in my book.
I liked the sequels a lot actually
Wait 10 years, and people will make memes and change public opinion about the sequels.
Prequels weren’t great, but they were decent. I’d recommend watching them.
There is a lot to live up to being prequels. People going to judge harshly.
7-8 were just plain bad, I enjoy Star Wars stuff a bunch. I like the prequels more than most I feel. I don’t even have one single care to watch the 9th.
I doubt it will change in 10 years.
Memes, sure, but they will be only how bad they suck. People who meme about the prequels usually enjoyed them at least a little.
The prequels are bad. The third one started getting it right, but then they were done.
They had good ideas to expand the Star Wars lore, but bad acting and bad writing ruined them.
I actually prefer the sequels, but imo The Mandalorian is the best Star Wars project to date.
All thanks to Filoni
The difference is that the prequels are still enjoyable, entertaining films with a lot of good aspects.
The sequels aren’t.
No
Uh, no?
Episode 1 in is entertaining. 2 and 3 are just awful. Especially 2.
I saw the originals as a child, and thus loved them.
I saw the prequels as an adult, and was kinda meh on 1 but loved 2 and 3.
While still an adult, I felt the same way about 7 and 8 as I did about 1.
But 9? I thought there was something wrong with me at first. I literally couldn’t believe what I’d just seen. They spent hundreds of millions of dollars on that! It still hurts my brain to imagine all those people buying off on that script… It must have been an emperor’s new clothes sort of situation. Such a waste of so many things.
I found 9 enjoyable, but I had no expectations that it would be good or coherent. 8 made sure that there was no chance of that.
For what 9 had to do in a single movie, it did a reasonable job. Kylo had to be redeemed, Rey needed her jedi moment, an actual threat needed to be established, Leia’s death needed acknowledgement, rebels/resistance needed to be more than 20 people on a ship, poe and finn needed some sort of arc, and the good guys had to win.
What was so wrong with the Last Jedi? I see reactions like this a lot but I thought it was far from being the worst star wars I’ve seen, and as a casual watcher of this series it was one of the few of them I actually enjoyed.
As part two of a three part series it fails miserably, especially if you factor in meta information like Kylo will be good by the end of 9 or Carrie Fischer passing. If you pretend it’s a stand alone movie and not in an established universe, it’s a bit less bad.
It killed every thread from episode 7, and didn’t make new ones. It created major canonical problems with the Holdo maneuver and hyperspacetacking. It just copied empire, but in a slightly different order and threw in the throne scene from episode 6. It used the played out theme of the failures of the jedi, that the first 6 movies covered pretty thoroughly amd better. It declared Poe a failure, but the battle as depicted shows he was clearly right to get the dreadnought kill. The whole concept of the galaxies slowest chase, despite hyperspace existing. There’s several instances of people teleporting for the plot, notably Rose saving Finn. The casino side plot to find a one of a kind super hacker, but a random guy in jail can do it too. The leaders of the bad guys are now Hux, who was turned into comedic relief, and Kylo, who has to be good, and was bested by Rey and Luke. Rey never gets training, and never fails (other than failing to get training), remains absurdly skilled with the force. Finn’s character reverted from the growth at the end of the previous movie, and then had essentially the same arc.
The movie did have some really great looking cgi though. The holdo maneuver looks amazing. The red on crait is stunning.
The main criticism of The Last Jedi is that it threw away everything The Force Awakens had set up. By the end of it there was almost no Resistance, no Snoke, no Luke (which might be a good thing considering what it did to his character), no payoff to the setup for Rey’s past, and everyone who wasn’t Rey or Kylo went backwards in their character arcs.
Just like The Force Awakens was hated by fans for throwing away the resolution of the original movies in order to set up A New Hope 2.0.
Lol the prequels are shit
Compared to the original trilogy? Yes.
Compared to the new trilogy? They are masterpieces.
Kinda like how Dumb and Dumberer is shit; but compared to the shit that is Dumb and Dumber 2, it’s great.
