Seems like something that WFH would solve without having to upend so many employee lives.
If they’re using this as a method to get employees to quit, then it’s gonna suck for the few that do move
And so begins (continues?) the enshittification of Apple. Siri is dumb as a bag of rocks. These people should all get raises.
Siri is dumb as a bag of rocks, but give them raises? They’re lucky they haven’t been fired.
Apple’s being enshittified a thousand ways, but Siri has always been shit.
You make a fair point
I’ve heard that the original Siri, before Apple bought it, was good?
This is what a stealth layoff looks like folks.
Ffs tech workers need to unionize and fast.
Are they expecting for people to just pack their shit up, and go? We have to stop letting these companies pretend that all the workers are just meat puppets
They want to force them to quit. Then they can move the office to Austin and rely on cheap illegal labour.
Probably not illegal per se but definitely cheaper and easier to fuck over: Texas labor protections are functionally nonexistent
Honestly, probably not. They probably want them to quit. This is a cost cutting measure that they don’t want to admit to publicly.
Hell no, especially the women on the team - that would mean giving up reproductive healthcare.
Apple likes the labor laws in Texas that allows them to screw their employees over when they feel like it
Don’t move, don’t quit. Make them fire you.
No one from California wants to move to Texas.
The Central Valley disagrees.
Sorry, coastal California ;)
You know, where the people live
That’s not really true. Most of California is very conservative, just not very populated. There’s probably a good number of people who at least would say they want to live in Texas, although they’d probably hate it once they realize what the state of California does for them.
Most of the…land? This is the verbal form of “map more red libs get owned”
pretty much exactly. we need to get a bunch of liberal people to move into those areas and push the rednecks and klansmen out
Perhaps the first comment was worded poorly. It’s less populated in comparison to some of the most populace cities in the world. There’s a lot of Republicans in California who would probably say they want to live in Texas. There are just a massive number of people in California.
You said most of California is conservative. Which is just flat out wrong. If u had just left that incorrect statement out then the rest of that comment would have been OK.
Most of California, by land mass, is. Most, by population, is not. Those are both true.
People tend to think of California as an exclusively blue state, and I think that’s ignoring the dangers the right can cause who live there. They are there, and they want to assert themselves. I think it’s dangerous to ignore that.
Many of the conservatives in California are still liberal by Texas standards. I grew up in the central valley and it’s not nearly as hard right as people believe.
Its slowing down recently but in 2021 and 2022 it was a very popular topic and many people did move from CA to TX.
And guess what happened in 23? A LOT of those people came RIGHT back to California lol
Perfect example: https://www.businessinsider.com/couple-moved-california-texas-back-santa-cruz-rosenberg-2023-11?op=1
Looking at census data: https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/california-exodus-census-analysis-18509264.php
California was one of 11 states whose inmigration rate was lower than the national migration average of 19.9%. The data says that many of the people (44,279) who moved to California last year came from Texas. The second-highest number of people (31,225) who moved from a different state to California came from New York.
Well, lots of people move to Texas from all kinds of states. You could make an article about each one if you tried. Also, people are moving to California from Texas—and everywhere else. You could write an article about each of those places if you tried.
My point is, people who bleed blue don’t move to Texas unless they have to. And, with recent politics, Texas is a much harder pill to swallow for anyone left of center.
I’m sure the lefties in California would love to get rid of the righties. Maybe they could make a 1:1 trade, lefties for righties.
A decade ago, a lot of folks would probably seriously consider this. Austin is a rad town and cost of living is cheaper than San Diego. Now moving to Texas could put you at significant risk if you’re a woman.
Apple, a company that likes to value diversity and inclusion, is apparently fine with putting its female employees in harm’s way for a tax break.
Of all the shit Apple has done, this is particularly disturbing.
Edit: Took a few more minutes to look into this, and it appears that Apple covers travel and medical expenses for women that have to travel out of state for care. Although, forcing someone into that position to keep their job is pretty douchey.
value diversity and inclusion
Bullshit.
They don’t give a shit.
It’s something of importance to their target demographic, so they play into it.
Austin isn’t even that much cheaper and property tax in TX is heinous compared to CA.
all the tech companies should move to another smaller city in a blue state all at once. turn Salem OR or something into the next big tech hub
Or build a blue city on the triple-border of South Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming. Property is crazy cheap there. It’s the perfect place for a big “blue utopia” city.
Because of those states’ small population, just a small number of Democratic votes there could yield three states’ electoral votes and six senators.
Republicans would lose forever if Democrats didn’t gerrymander themselves into the coasts.
IIRC some red states have already floated the idea of not letting people vote for several years after moving there specifically to ensure that Republicans never lose control.
Not cheaper at all, actually. They only discuss income tax when folks claim that.
Austin is cheaper than San Diego, even excluding taxes:
Also, the topic was taxes, not cost of living. But it is understandable that when folks can’t justify their bias they simply shift the goal posts.
Pay is higher in CA so that isn’t the smug data point you thought it was.
The topic was cost of living. Then someone mentioned it AND taxes. Then this person replied to the cost of living part.
Seems weird to read this conversation and see the claim bias and goalpost moving. They very clearly are not shifting anything.
Also you’re making a pretty wild assumption that by stating facts with evidence that they’re “biased”. Don’t be that guy/girl. I hate it when conservatives do that too.
Nope it is Taxes for the Company. The Company cares not one whit for the CoL of their Employees except when it affects the quality.
Even covering expenses still puts women’s lives at risk.
Sure if you get pregnant and early on decide you want one, they can help out, AFTER you divulge very private information.
But what about all the myriad of other scenarios where people need medical abortions in life threatening situations. You don’t always have the time to get yourself to another state, and then you die, or lose the ability to get pregnant again.
Sure its nice they offer it, but fuck them for putting women in that situation anyway. They don’t get a pass for covering costs when they can.
With a 2% chance of an ectopic pregnancy, it’s a little like Russian Roulette if you’re of childbearing age, isn’t it?
I’m just shocked to learn that Siri has (had) a quality control team.
This is becoming a larger and larger ask as the states drift further apart in terms of rights.
