• bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml
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      10 months ago

      Musk wants Twitter to fail. He bid on it for a laugh and when his bid was accepted he tried to get out of it.

      They made him buy it and he’s been butthurt ever since. He wants everyone involved to suffer, because then the decision to hold him accountable was a bad decision.

      He doesn’t give a fuck about people, or technology, or even the money he sunk on it. So it looks like he’s shaving his eyebrows to spite his face. It doesn’t hurt, so he doesn’t care.

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        10 months ago

        What? The people who made him buy it got paid already. I’m sure they’re laughing every time they see it drop in value.

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        He’s not hurting the people who made him buy it.

        If he really wanted to be rid of it he could have instead done nothing. Put someone in charge with the impossible task of “make this profitable in 5 years” and then shut it down after 5 years because “it’s not profitable”.

        Showing his ass to the world and ruining future potential for investment by looking like an incompetent idiot is not a “secretly intelligent move”.

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          Sure he’s not hurting them, but he’ll still keep riding the pony into the ground, because he owns it, he’ll do what he wants. He’s not making intelligent moves, because his choices aren’t reasoned they are just whims.

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        4D chess isn’t real. Sometimes, rich and powerful people do dumb things. Sometimes they’re not very smart and have a visible personality disorder. Searching for an underlying clever motive is an exercise in your intelligence - not theirs.

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          I don’t think “they made me buy it so I’m breaking it” is really a 4D move. It’s more like a 4th grade move.

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            “So” is the mistake. He’s not breaking it on purpose. He’s just a fucking idiot. He is exactly as smug and incompetent as he appears.

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              10 months ago

              “I’m going to do what I want despite all advice and consequences” doesn’t need to be intentional or unintentional to be what it is

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      Musk wants to know how much the system costs. The information being provided seems as relevant as the article telling us the engineer was a “mother of two”.

      The more I look at this quote the stupider it gets, which is a shame because the article is quite informative

    • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      its amazing how elon was once so milquetoast and inoffensive that he was a guest on the big bang theory and then he was like you know whats good? nazis.

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      I was one of those. In my defense, 2012-2015(ish) he really was doing cool things. Tesla and Space X were super innovative and brought optimism. Then a time traveler stepped on a bug, the whole Thailand pedophile fiasco happened and it went downhill from there. Now we have yokes, dumb turn signals and the whole cybertruck, not to mention removing ultrasound sensors to save a few cents and the whole Twitter debacle. At least space X is still somehow unfucked?

      In case it helps… I’m sorry.

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        I think the problem was he started to believe his own hype that he was a super-genius that knew everything about everything.

        I mean I don’t know the nitty gritty details of building an electric car or building rockets. But neither does Elon Musk. Which would be fine except that he tries to talk about these things like he does understand all of the details. Nobody knows everything about everything, it’s only an idiot that tries to act like he does.

        But then he tries talking like he’s an expert in a field I am familiar with and it’s like… there’s points people could make on this subject, but that’s not one of them.

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          I think he always believed his own hype. Heck there was a point where I was somewhat into his hype.

          Though I never liked Tesla’s interior design philosophy of “just put all the controls on a giant tablet and call it a day”

          Truth is we didn’t know enough about him to gain an opinion. So imaginations ran wild. I mean there are people who have been saying how bad he was since the whole PayPal thing. It’s just those companies weren’t big enough at the time for it to gain any gravity in the public eye.

          Then Tesla and spaceX happened, and people thought what he was doing was awesome, because a lot of it was and it was easy to look past the parts that weren’t.

          Now however the fact he can’t keep his mouth shut and has become a twitter addict has kinda ruined our public opinion on him. If he had just stayed quiet and not bothered with the whole buying twitter thing, people might not care much about him. And the Epstein stuff and affairs and shit didn’t help him one bit. He’s right to mistrust the media - that shit is like a gourmet breakfast for them.

          Basically he revealed himself in the public for what he truly is. A cold blooded greedy ass tycoon with an ego the size of the planets he’s trying to colonise, with a modern style nerd-hipster science theming and old school conservative ideals.

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          Same. Can’t judge about auto industry or rocket science, but I know a thing or two about software. And… Yeah, everything he’s said about Twitter internals (and sw dev in general) is brain dead.

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          The thing is after Peter Thiel made him a multi-billionaire against his best efforts, he did actually put that capital into industries that desperately needed someone to prove to the boomers that you could, and should, make money in them.

          There’s a whole lot to say about his credit stealing, ego, and the system itself, but the fact remains he does have an eye for talent (that he can exploit for gain)

          So, sure, he was just the bankroll, but that doesn’t mean the companies didn’t desperately need that.

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            That’s fair enough!

            I’m just so used to people calling him an engineer and an inventor, while, as you say, the cool things he did were as an investor.

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      At least around 2015 when SpaceX landed a rocket for the first time, it really does look like he’s the real life Tony Stark. People change, sometimes for the worse.

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      It didn’t hurt that he was in Iron Man 2. Pepper for some reason is bending over backwards to be deferential to him in the early Monte Carlo scene.

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      Well, Tony Stark is a fictional character in a fictional universe, so real science or how the real world works in general don’t need to apply to him and he only needs to conjure up some cool sounding tech words for the audience and the plot will do the rest. So Elon Musk is indeed like Tony Stark, only issue is he is also indeed the real life version so has no plot to back him up and all the rules of real life still apply.

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    I tend to think people shit on Musk more than they should, but holy shit does it bug me when a CEO talks about engineering problems with such bravado.

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      The guy is an idiot who LITERALLY got fired for incompetence as CEO.in the past. He is a scammer and should be treated as such, so no, people aren’t shitting too much on him. If anything, they aren’t shitting enough, there are still way too many oblivious fan boys out there that think he is a genius. He’s not.

      Anything he says that makes sense engineering wise usually comes from someone on his team, anything else is just outrageously stupid, and clearly from his “genius mind” like this blurb/cert/tweet whatever the hell its supposed to be called.

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      He talked about electric cars. I don’t know anything about cars, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.

      Then he talked about rockets. I don’t know anything about rockets, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.

      Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software & Elon Musk is saying the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard anyone say, so when people say he’s a genius I figure I should stay the hell away from his cars and rockets.

      Rod Hilton about Elon Musk.

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    For the curious, this is about as easy as it gets for proper type inference. You could leave out the one or other thing (most prominently, polymorphism), but that kind of stuff would hardly qualify as even a toy example.

    I won’t claim that J. Random Hacker will have issues understanding it – it’s a neatly tied bundle of necessary complexity without any distracting parts (like efficiency), if you sit down with the thing (ideally starting the whole series from the beginning) you’ll be able to grok it (and have learned a lot). However, understanding HM isn’t the same as being able to extend it, which includes proving soundness of the system, that kind of stuff is a specialised field within a specialised field within academia with more open questions than answered ones. The reason Rust doesn’t have HKTs? Because their interaction with lifetimes is insufficiently understood. Those kinds of questions can easily start 20+ years of research only to be answered with “yep that’s inherently unsound/uncomputable/whatever”.

    Oh, EDIT, forgot: AI-enabled typing is obviously a completely braindead idea. I don’t need a second lazy, impatient, hubristic idiot looking at my code, I need something to catch mistakes. Something deterministic, rule-based, pure unerring logic. Which is exactly what type systems are and do.

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    I constantly feel the need to argue with this dumb fuck and his 99% wrong opinions. I usually have to take a step back, remember it’s not worth it, and then move on. It would be a great help if I had a Firefox add-on that precedes all of musk’s tweets with "retard weighing in: ", just as a reminder that he’s also allowed a point of view, despite his mental issues.

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      Pretty sure you‘re only using the r-bomb and „mental issues“ in a joking way but its kind of not funny.

      Musk is a spoiled, unempathetic, overhyped idiot who claims to be autistic… perfect example that autistic people can be cretins as well.

      But a lot of autistic people are getting called the r-word and its not ok. Mental (health) issues are not a stigma. They are okay and normal. Being an asshole isnt normal or okay though.

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        Irrelevant question ahead->

        I have read that Google is dumb and potentially malware carrying extensions sometimes slip through their security and onto the chrome store. Is it true and how does it apply to Firefox

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    I know literally 0.0000000001% of 1st year CS, and even I know that Musk just googled what “type” means in this context. No shit a compiler can determine the type at compile time. That’s not what the post was about, Elon my guy.

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      Websearch “transhumanism silicon valley”, and it starts making sense: Musk has faith that artificial general intelligence is coming, Soon®, and that it’ll replace grunt labour like programming.

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        no it still doesn’t because unless that ai will code in assembly (which you could argue is a statically typed programming language with just one type , but lets not be pedantic) , it will still use programming languages , which means it will still matter if a language something is made is statically or dynamically typed .

        even with the assumption that AI will be able to efficiency code in assembly , lets entertain the exponential growth version of ai often shown in fiction , it will still not be worth for that super intelligence to write in assembly (except for what we humans would call fun or for small cases where its necessary like os headers etc) because a compiler will do it faster and likely good enough , especially as it will then be able to make a better compiler . it will also likely not want to spend time/focus to scan the assembly code which is another advantage to not writing in pure assembly .

        making that statement requires a complete lack of understanding how programming works along with an over"optimistic" view on the future of ai nya