Holy shit! That’s the most depressing thing I read in a while. :(
- Create an IG account with a burner email and join the chat
- Sell all other member’s data to advertisement, scam telephone services, mailing lists, etc… subscribe all of them to newsletters from amazon and pornsites (or just wait for all of that to happen naturally)
- Wait for someone to bring this up
- “I told you, we should move to Signal”
- Bring everyone over
- Win
„I want people to care more about their privacy so I’m going to give away their data and seriously harming their privacy to tell them that i told them so“ - what kind of mental gymnastics is this?
lol cope and be normal I guess? I understand insta isn’t great with privacy but it’s a group chat for your room mates. Make a burner account instead of forcing all of them to download some app they’ve never heard of for one group chat with people they are forced to be acquaintances with.
They’re likely all thinking you’re the odd man out because you’re making a fuss over a group chat.
Problem: group messaging
Smart solution: private lean messaging app
Stupid solution: a bloated social media app that will still fingerprint and track you and feed your data back even on a burner account
They’re likely all thinking you’re the odd man out
Blah blah friends jumping off a bridge.
Most people care about comfort and ease of use more than about privacy. Deal with it and stop complaining about what app others use.
Roommates aren’t exactly people you can painlessly choose not to communicate with. This isn’t about other people personally choosing to using an app on their daily life, this is them pushing OP to install spyware on their phone.
Deal with it and stop complaining about what app others use.
Wut
Who TF is using Instagram for group chats?
Pretty normal reaction after the announcement that Signal got rid of SMS support. A bunch of folks I used to talk to read that and ditched Signal entirely for FB Chat.
Who still uses SMS ???
Clearly enough people for this to be a point, a big majority of people in the US still do at least in the places I’ve stayed in.
There’s nothing inherently wrong with SMS.
They had a good blog post about why - their take was that SMS is dying and the replacement was a moving target that was hard to support for reasons I’m forgetting. I agree it hurt them tremendously though.
I get that. That is specifically the reason they uninstalled Signal and started using FB.
How many other folks did that?
Probably a lot. I was very annoyed myself, though it made android pretty similar to the situation on iOS where you can’t replace the default messaging app anyway.
It’s an area where I think we need a bunch of stuff:
- Antitrust regulation to force companies to use open standards and allow customization
- Folks like the Signal Foundation should get over themselves and run their project like a real open source project, where others can fork/modify/run both the server side and client side.
There’s so much anti-competitive bullshit regarding #1 from all sides, from carriers to Apple to Google to device manufacturers.
Sorry that your unnecessary tool was shot down and a more approachable user friendly task compliant tool was chosen instead
task compliant tool
I thought Instagram was for photos of fitness thots or something not for instant messaging
Signal does suck, especially since it doesn’t support sms anymore.
Bad sign for a roommate. I think their intention was " I have something that’s good enough, and I would be inconvenienced to do another thing, therefore I would prefer to use the old platform most of us are already on " but instead he said " signal sucks "
This person might be painful to live with
Agreed. Hopefully that person will be an ex-roommate soon. Signal, Telegram, and even WhatsApp are all good platforms for group chat communication. Duck Instagram and that roommate.
Nothing from Meta, Google, Microsoft is good. It might be encrypted, but the apps suck everyrhing they can from your device and connect it to your real identity you have on FB, IG, Gmail emails…
How sure can one be with proprietary apps that the users are in fact the only ones who can decrypt their messages?
The thing is that today you dont even need access to the coversation when you have metadata. Imagine, a woman calls a number of center for planned parenthood, is on the phone for 20 mins. Then she calls a number of her gyno doc for couple mins. Then her phone is located at that gyno doc a week later for 2 hours or whatever it takes. Do you need to decrypt the conversation? You already know what was discussed.
“sent from my iphone”
Such signatures are so annoying. Who in the history ever read this and thought “yeah, you know what I’ll get an iPhone for email”? Stupid preset.
Probably some people, back when smartphones were novel in 2007.
At this point though, it’s tacky and implies that you don’t care enough about the conversation to turn it off.
My hot take is that Gen Z is less tech literate than Millennials and it’s almost entirely due to iOS.
Put in mind that’s only in Murica. In the rest of the world Android rocks
Instagram, FB Mesenger, SMS…? IDK why you guys don’t just use WhatsApp. It’s the standard messaging app everywhere in the world (except the US, of course)
EDIT: Wow, lots of people in denial ITT. Look, it’s simple: you can hate Meta/Facebook as much as you want (and I do), but you can’t deny that WhatsApp is a great product, feature-wise. People who compare it to SMS, Instagram chat, FB messenger or anything else (yes, including Matrix) are honestly laughable. The only service that can hold a candle against it is perhaps Telegram
If everyone is already on platform X why would they install app W?
Because this website is an echo chamber that hates big corporations and think the holy grail is to avoid having an online footprint by not using big apps, thus achieving “privacy”.
In reality they’re a minority of about 100:1.
You might wanna scope the username. Lol
Bleh, had an argument with someone about switching to signal or something other than FB messenger and he flat out refused on the basis that it would require him to have another app on his phone.
Three months later, he had signal installed on his phone. No idea what happened there, probably someone with more social clout than I had got him to install it. No mention of the prior argument.
Maybe you got through to him
I hate Gen Z
Dude. I have a group that only talks on Facebook Messenger. It’s 100% Gen X and Millennials. Don’t blame the generation, it just makes you sound like an old man yelling “get off my lawn”.
Exactly. What’s annoying are oblivious people, who are the majority in every single generation.
Don’t blame the generation, it just makes you sound like an old man yelling “get off my lawn”.
I’m assuming that they are also Gen Z, with the whole college roommates thing.
Who the fuck uses instagram for group chats?
I was overjoyed to learn everyone at my new job uses Signal… Apparently we can even install the desktop app on our work laptops, but I won’t go that far.
If this an engineering school the future is in deeper doodoo than I even imagined.
