• Dickarus@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I like how you can get a ticket for using your phone while driving, so automakers decided to replace your tactile radio, where you don’t need to look at it to operate, with what is basically a giant touchscreen phone in your car where you need to look at it to see what you’re doing instead of feeling what you’re doing.

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        7 months ago

        Yep it should just be illegal plain and simple. Maybe some screens that are mainly intended for passive display that you can still use with touch, but all main functions one would need to use while operating the vehicle should be buttons and dials.

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          7 months ago

          Many states have laws prohibiting the use of anything that isn’t hands free, including integrated media controls. Won’t stop anyone, but just because it’s illegal doesn’t mean people won’t do it. Same as speeding, or eating/drinking while driving in many states.

    • TheRealKuni@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      I don’t mind a touchscreen. Apple CarPlay/Android Auto are really nice.

      I just also want physical controls for everything the car needs to do to be a car, like climate control or wipers or shifting. And also physical controls for play/pause, skip, volume, and tuning.

      Touchscreens can do a lot to enhance the car experience, but they cannot replace physical buttons.

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    7 months ago

    Yeah I really hope other car makers follow because I fucking hate touch controls in cars with a burning passion. It’s idiotic and not safe at all.

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      7 months ago

      Same goes for kitchens. Give me real buttons and knobs and not these abhorrent touch panels that refuse to work every third time. A good quality kitchen appliance is identified by high quality knobs that last for decades.

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        7 months ago

        I pumped gas at a brand new Shell station over the weekend. The controls for the pump was one GIANT touchscreen (I’m talking probably 12 inches wide by 36 inches tall). It was fucking PAINFUL to use. Every touch took 2-3 seconds for the action to happen. Da fuck is wrong with a regular pump and regular buttons that just work!?

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          7 months ago

          What do you need a touchscreen for? You just take an appropriate pump (E95, Diesel), fill the fuel and pay at the register.

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            7 months ago

            Because it’s way faster to pay at the pump and not have to go inside. I’ve only been inside a gas station like 4-5 times in the last decade.

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    7 months ago

    Good. Touchscreens are the most unsafe feature added to vehicles in decades. It’s honestly mind boggling how it was allowed in the first place.

    • highenergyphysics@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Easy, because regulations don’t mean anything anymore.

      Headlights that blind you in the day and literally block all vision of the road at night, road legal trucks which bumpers that START at the hood of my car, all around limo tints on literally every car, people disabling their rear lights for some idiotic reason…

      And that doesn’t even begin to mention the drivers themselves, so fucking self absorbed, tailgating, cutting you off for fun to get to the same light.

      I’ve literally had a stream of cars going around me on street roads and so many dumbasses just follow the stream that I literally cannot safety accelerate because they’re all cutting me off bumper to bumper.

      You should start carrying a gun if not already. The conservatives have successfully rotted western society.

      • Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works
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        7 months ago

        While you have some good points, it seems you may be missing one in that if you are constantly getting passed in that manner, you are causing a problem, regardless of what is posted. Most western law systems have a provision against impeding the flow of traffic.

  • MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    I’m very glad, the lack of buttons are a safety hazard… Looking at these stupid TESLA cars especially… You can’t even adjust the AC without messing with the touchscreen, which means your eyes are not on the road…

    Still not going to own a car, but at least it will be slightly safer by bringing back physical buttons, so hurray for small victories.

    • LittleHermiT@lemmus.org
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      7 months ago

      I said the same to a Tesla owner who informed me buttons on the steering wheel provide all these functionalities. But upvoters don’t own a Tesla.

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        7 months ago

        Not all functionalities. You can’t even adjust the direction/power of the AC or open the glovebox without multiple presses on the touchscreen.

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          7 months ago

          There’s no physical button to open the glovebox? Better not keep anything critical in there in case of a software failure.

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            7 months ago

            Either software or hardware failure of the big infotainment system can suck really badly, and TESLA is also an anti-repair company too…

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    7 months ago

    Now only if I could complain enough that my recall on my Atlas gets the passanger air bag fixed. Got told in April that nobody can ride in the passenger seat because the air bag might not deploy. Still no ETA on when a fix will be available. What a BS company.

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    7 months ago

    This is actually very good news for car manufacturers.

    Touch crap was cheaper but sold a new tech so => price increase

    Buttons are old tech so no new investments or tech development but they are more complicated => price increase

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        7 months ago

        They 100% do! But the marketing departments always likes to have “solid” arguments at hand.

        How else can they organise fairs and conferences where they can lament about how poor the automakers are and how pressure from are pulling prices down so automakers cannot compete… how they have to fire people and move production in poorer countries where people can be treated more like slaves… how profits are so low that they have to use the same jets with the same bitches twice!

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    7 months ago

    and to add insult to injury, I couldn’t turn the heater on countless times because the climate portion of the OS was unresponsive. Other times, it would simply say that the function couldn’t be performed at the time. Why? No idea.

    This is the main problem, not something about the UI being wonky. That my AC can freeze not because of the radiator but because of a shitty UI system? That’s insane.