Maybe I’m just face-blind or being dense but the photos from the scene of the crime look like a different dude than the ginning hostel check in guy. The jackets and backpacks are different. Although people can have multiple jackets and backpacks. We don’t see much of the shooters face but the eyebrows look different. Although, people can pluck/shave eyebrows. I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?
Smiling guy is a patsy they’ll try to hang for this to help other CEOs sleep peacefully on their second yachts at night after a long day of forcing 5 day a week return to office mandates for overworked employees with “leadership” emails sent remotely from Saint-Tropez.
Weird thing is, neither of these photos has the guy… they already know the man responsible for this and many other deaths, his name was Brian Thompson.
To me it looks like the same person in different lighting conditions.
Agreed. What I don’t get is that the backpack seems to be a very different color.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist (I don’t think), but the backpack is the inconsistency that’s interesting to me.
Easy enough to be using more than one bag.
But the front pockets on the jacket are different. The zipper pull is different.
The fabric on the left is crisper, looks plasticized, and is waterproofed, while the one on the right is fluffy and soft.
It’s all very subtle, the pictures are low quality. It’s likely not the same guy, but they’re starving to have someone in custody.
Yeah, every hour they don’t have this dude in custody makes them look incompetent, especially for the billionaire class who have so far provided a LOT of cover for the police. This makes the NYPD look especially bad, given their nationwide rep as “the best PD in the country” among us plebs and the fact that their numbers eclipse several small national militaries.
Nationwide rep? All I ever hear about them from out of state is corruption and illegal shakedowns. FDNY gets all the glory.
Longtime theatre guy here - trust me, lighting does amazing things.
CNN and others just put the photos out without verification. No official photos have been released. CNN even said as much in their article
Well that sucks.
Also, can’t stop thinking about that episode of The Newsroom with Boston marathon bombing. 10 years since it aired and this shit is only getting worse.
Boston bomber 2.0
That’s pretty fucking irresponsible
That’s pretty much how most modern, corporate news outlets operate: irresponsibly.
“Hi we’re CNN. We don’t really have reporters. We regurgitate random shit we find on social media. Liberal, conservative… Suck my dick we’re CNN and we’re always… Just fucking there butching reality. Fuck you.”
“There was a shooting! Police are looking for the suspect! PICTURE OF A CLOWN WITH A GUN HONK HONK”
I keep seeing the backpack as not matching, I don’t get how these are considered the same person, unless is going to be the next blue-black white-gold thing.
Yeah, the jacket is very different as well if you look at the front chest area. While people do say maybe he just changed his clothes, the problem is if he also changed his backpack, he couldn’t have just put the clothes in the backpack, meaning he would’ve had to have left them somewhere and there would’ve been a trail that probably would’ve been found by now. It doesn’t really add up for them to be the same person.
Different bag. Different jacket.
That doesn’t mean it’s not the same person. It means they have more jackets and bags. If I was going to murder someone I too might bring extras so I can get changed afterwards.
To be clear I hope they don’t catch this guy, but I’m just being real.
I’d do two bags in two separate locations with different changes of clothes in each. whichever bag I went would depend on what the circumstances afterwards were.
No no, you just wear the getaway outfit under the hoodie and pants that are easy to take off.
Yeah, these are obviously different. All kinds of visible differences. Pockets, color of bag, strap sizes, no string on hood, lapel looks different, one looks more like a “hoodie” than a jacket… Just doesn’t match very well at all.
It’s the Everyday Bag by Peak Design. Probably v2. I want it so I can cosplay assassin-kun! Gotta figure out the right jacket.
The clothing color could be due to lighting. Remember the blue black dress meme? Multiple backpacks is too easy. So that’s a non-issue.
That being said. Why isn’t anyone considering that maybe the cops couldn’t give a shit either. But they have to try because the money people said so.
Cops are fucking pigs in america.
Poor pigs getting fucked by cops.
They’ll happily jail an innocent person so they can avoid looking incompetent.
It’s more than incompetent. It’s that they can’t get caught. That there is a way to execute and not be held accountable. If that knowledge hits the masses it’s a public relations nightmare.
it helps if everyone starts wearing the same clothes and white backpack
That’s what I think as well. The assassin hopped on a bike and pedaled off to Central Park.
Personally I think he had a different clothes going into the city. Changed in CP, Stole a bike, then biked to the hotel did the deed. Biked back to CP ditched the clothes and bike and left the city.
How do you explain the different pockets and completely different backpack, then?
I don’t think lighting makes a light grey backpack into black. That’s a bit of a stretch. Especially considering the jacket on the left have no chest pockets. The one on the right has massive pocket flaps like they are the main character.
thank you! where did he stash the other jacket, and if he did why would he pick one of same colour and type?
4D chess! Obviously that’s his plan to throw off the police, have another almost identical but distinguishable backpack and jacket! /s
blue black dress meme
You mean the gold/white dress meme?
Definately 7’ 8" female. Asian descent. Bald. Possible Alopecia. Dwarfism.
I remember she had a hook wearing a captains hat with a parrot in his shoulder.
8 foot dwarves
TIL we’re Amazonians
with a strong German accent
Some innocent Bavarian farm woman is currently being arrested thanks to you two. As if she didn’t have it hard enough.
He does actually look European to me, who knows though
Pretty sure all of those pics are different people. I guess we’ll never find them, might as well give up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No no no…we must continue to waste police resources over this!
Pretty sure it might have been Andre the Giant.
Or it could have been the Mexican Cleaning Lady from Family Guy.
No, no
I was curious when I was hearing the police chatter saying the suspect was wearing a “cream-coloured” jacket, when in the assassination footage it’s pretty undeniably black or a dark colour at least.
It’s not blue and black! It’s white and gold!!!
Never underestimate how actively worthless “eyewitness” testimony is.
I was not aware of this detail. But if it were just bystanders telling stuff to cops before they got a hold of the footage, they are going to go with it. Especially since it is already pretty worthless to begin with (so many jackets are easily reversed).
Two different colored backpacks too
I heard he was wearing a
white and goldblue and black coat.I heard that he’s an ethereal being from another dimension that has already faded away from our plane of existence so the police is wasting its time looking for him and should close the case.
He probably spun around
counterclockwise, but if you focus a lot it might have been the other directionBut did you see the Gorilla?
But we liked Harambe.
The fabric looks different too. Like the shooter’s jacket seems to have a texture like gore-tex and the hostel guy’s jacket seems more like a cotton-poly weave. It’s hard to know for sure with the low quality images, but the colors look really different (and neither is anything close to cream)
The pockets are alone to give away that Hostel guy is wearing a “field jacket” cotton blend while Agent 47 is wearing a ECWCS cold/wet weather top. He could have two jackets and all that but they’re different jackets.
auto white balance in cheap digital video camera changes color appearances dramatically in different types of light bulbs
that would be my first guess/answer
No breast pockets on the shooter’s jacket and there’s no way your white balance is going to be so off that a white backpack becomes black
you are aware that things still exist when you can’t see them, like breast pockets of someone with their back turned to you?
Yes, but are you blind to the top left picture?
It’s a different jacket entirely though. The backpack strap is also a different design.
Accounting for that, the hostel guy seems to have a rucksack or similar. They’re quite distinct and notable bags. If it’s not actually a rucksack, it’s something with similar design elements, maybe a knockoff, since rucksacks tend to be rather expensive.
Rucksacks are popular with people who hike/move around a lot, the kind of people who would stop at a hostel for a night before moving on to another area/location/city/country, usually by non-typical means (hiking, walking, hitch hiking, etc).
That’s just the personality type for one such person who would use such a combination of products, and by no means should describe, or imply a description, of the individual illustrated in the image. My entire point to saying any of this is that it’s a very district design.
The shooter has a very simple backpack that lacks most of the notable features that I can see from the backpack/rucksack that the hostel person is using.
They’re both backpacks, but one is notably different than the other.
While it’s feasible they just switched backpacks, IMO it’s far more likely that they’re simply different people.
To me, this kind of naming and shaming attitude of a person of interest in an ongoing investigation by the press is disgusting.
If the images here depict two different people as I suspect they do, then the individual in the hostel images is likely to suffer consequences as a result of the brash and hasty release of their images by the press. It will likely affect them for years to come.
It makes for enticing headlines, that’s for sure, but it’s abysmal journalism. They don’t seem to have any standards left regarding the truth, only whatever will attract the most views/clicks/reads/whatever.
It’s kinda crazy because I own the backpack he had on during the incident, it’s a peak design camera bag and it’s pretty expensive. Definitely not the bag the dude at the hostel is wearing.
I have a rucksack, and the design elements I can see from the hostel seem to match up pretty good.
Unless this individual has two fairly costly backpacks that they’re just swapping between, I think the media is calling out an innocent person.
No, I think they match, but if I wound up on his jury, I might start to doubt it.
“Mr Westin, do these two men look similiar to you?”
“No…”
“But I haven’t even shown the second picture yet.”
“Ok, show me…but I’ll still say no.”
“OK, now do these two pictures-”
“Not guilty!”
“Excuse me?”
“Oh , sorry, too soon? I’ll wait.”
I thought I saw that these pictures were taken on different days and the guy on the right has been tagged as a “person of interest” and not officially a “suspect”
The police said he’s a person of interest. All the news reports are calling him the shooter. I saw a clip from Good Morning America and they didn’t even bother saying “alleged”. It seems crazy irresponsible.
That is actually insanely irresponsible journalism, if you can even call it that. INSANE. American news sources are just a wild west of “information”, isn’t it.
Clearly five different people.
Top right looks like Jake Gyllenhaal
Bottom right looks like Aaron Taylor-Johnson
Top right looks kinda like young Julia Roberts.
There’s a photo where he kinda looks like a young Joe Rogan.
I fully back this assertion. time traveling Rogan lock him up!
Hey everyone, look who cracked the case!
The nose I can go either way on. It looks “different” to me but wearing a mask and not grinning makes a huge difference there (it is why you are told to not smile for ID photos). The eyebrows are more a function of angle and resolution as you can see some darkness on the left (and he is obviously scowling and not flirting with a cute desk girl).
As for the jacket and backpack? Too lazy to look up the backpack models (people figured it out) but the one on the left looks small enough to fit in the one on the right. So he has his backpack for travel and then a smaller one full of gun and snacks and whatever else for the stakeout.
I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?
Never talk to the cops without a lawyer and NEVER voluntarily talk to them.
Also? The cops are going to find SOMEONE in the next week or so. And you can be damned sure they are going to take advantage of all of the news and social media about how this is a skilled hitman fighting for the loss of a loved one who WILL NOT BE TAKEN ALIVE. They’ll corner whoever they can pin it on, shoot them a few times, and then plant a gun and call it a day.
Agreed. I think he could’ve changed clothes to throw the investigators in for a loop
It’s the smart thing to do and pretty basic evasion tactic that I know I learned from a kids book about spies when I was a kid.
My guess is, he road the ebike to Central Park (known fact), ran into a restroom to quick change, probably did something to modify his appearance then continued off blending into the crowd, probably leaving the city on public transit to further anonymise himself.
Another tactic mentioned in that same kids spy book was to put something distracting like a bandage on your face so it’s harder for witnesses to remember your face, they’ll just remember there was a big bandage on the cheek or whatever. I’ve never heard of people actually using that tactic so I do have to wonder if there’s a pitfall there that’s not immediately obvious
