• elbucho@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      As well they fucking should. Trump isn’t going to be any better for the Palestinian people than Biden and Harris. He is, in fact, going to be far worse for them. Also, he’s a traitor, a serial rapist, a misogynist, a pedophile, a grifter, and an imbecile. The American voting population either liked what they saw, or didn’t care enough to vote against him. Fuck every single one of those assholes right in the face.

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        Yeah it’s definitely that and not your obvious case of Trump derangement syndrome. Why would you think saying “Fuck every single one of those assholes right in the face.” To anyone who didn’t vote for the same person as you would change their mind in who they vote for? Do you hate everyone who lacks the cognitive ability to draw the same conclusions as you?

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        Then let me ask you this: What did the democrats promised? That they’re not Trump?

        Most people look back at what Biden did, and saw nothing much. Some people stuck on the huricane saw they weren’t getting the help they need. Meanwhile, the saw on the news some foreign countries they’ve never set their feet on getting all the money that could’ve been used for their people.

        DNC is basically playing chicken with their supporter on the Palestine issue. “Yes, we’re gonna let babies fly headless, but guess what, either us or that orange criminal!” Guess how that turned out. You’re gonna complain about how Trump is gonna end this quicker. How is it worse exactly if they’re gonna face the same fate in the end?

        Meanwhile, Trump promised a strong arm approach to all the economic problem. A lot of people are desperate with their financial situation.

        All that far-right policies are getting fanatical support. Meanwhile, the DNC were losing support as they tried to compromise with the right-wing ideologies.

        Oh, and don’t forget they would’ve had better chance with Sanders, but instead they went with Harris. The best she could do was play with women right.

        But yeah, the voters suck!

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        I agree. Americans are fully on board with genocide, there is full continuity between their policy and actions and between administrations. We should sanction them like we did to russia.

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          Well, this is a bit of a good news, bad news situation for you. Good news: Americans are now about to reap the consequences of their idiotic decision. Bad news: Palestinians are going to be fucked harder than they are currently.

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        So what is Donny going to do worse? Complete the genocide faster?

        Because Biden, Harris and the DNC have made it abundantly clear that they support the genocide and total annihilation of all Palestinians and to erase any last bit of Palestine from the Maps. They just wanted it to happen at a pace that allows to pretend not being white supremacist mass murderers to continue getting the votes of the minorities in the US.

        The Dems need to be punished over this until they remove the genocidal white supremacists from their ranks.

        That is the only way to create a political momentum to get a non genocidal political option in the US

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          So what is Donny going to do worse? Complete the genocide faster?

          Yes, that exactly in fact. Trump said Bibi can do whatever but needs to end it soon.

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            Soooo… Less suffering for those that would die anyways? And less white people patting themselves on the back for trying nothing but considering themselves good for it anyways?

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          So what is Donny going to do worse? Complete the genocide faster?

          Yes, you dumb motherfucker! Yes!

          The guy he picked for US Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, is on record saying:

          There are certain words I refuse to use. There is no such thing as a West Bank—It’s Judea and Samaria… There’s no such thing as a settlement—They’re communities, they’re neighborhoods, they’re cities. There’s no such thing as an occupation… There’s really no such thing as a Palestinian. [They are a] political tool [to] force land away from Israel.

          As bad as Biden and Harris are on the subject, they at least acknowledge that Palestinians are people who live in a place called Palestine. They don’t pretend that “Palestinians” are just crisis actors trying to make Israel look like bad guys. Did you miss that little snippet in the news?

          Because Biden, Harris and the DNC have made it abundantly clear that they support the genocide and total annihilation of all Palestinians and to erase any last bit of Palestine from the Maps.

          No, that is some straight up hyperbole on your part. They are supporting Israel, for sure. They are complicit in the genocide without a doubt. But there’s a difference between being complicit in a thing, and being a cheerleader for a thing. You’re acting like they’re cheerleading it, when they very much are not. Trump & co., however, IS cheerleading it. So yes. Trump is worse for Palestinians, full stop.

          They just wanted it to happen at a pace that allows to pretend not being white supremacist mass murderers to continue getting the votes of the minorities in the US.

          So you acknowledge that Trump being president will end with more Palestinian people dying at a faster rate than would happen under Harris?

          If that’s the case, why the fuck are you acting like the two are identical?

          The Dems need to be punished over this until they remove the genocidal white supremacists from their ranks.

          Oh fuuuuuck you. Fuck you so fucking hard, right in your god damned face. You can take your accelerationist bullshit, fold it over twice, douse it in olive oil, and stick it straight up your asshole. Democrats aren’t perfect. They’re pretty fucking far from it on their best day. But you know what? Under no circumstance are they ever anywhere near as bad as Republicans. And attitudes like yours just caused Republicans to have full control of the US government. Palestine is now fucked. The US as a democratic nation is now fucked. Trans people in the US are now fucked. Gay people in the US are now fucked. Women in the US are now fucked. All because you and people like you got on your high horse and said that if Democrats don’t deliver perfection, you’re going to give the country to the worst possible people imaginable. Fuck you. Fuck you forever.

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            Yeah, yeah, but fundamentally, what’s going to be worse under Trump on that score. With Israel, Dems and GOP are Coke-Pepsi all the way down. Are Democrat bombs kinder than Trump bombs?

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              This is the most ignorant shit ever. Unfortunately for everyone, this question will answer itself, and you won’t be feeling very smug anymore. Give it 6 months.

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              but fundamentally, what’s going to be worse under Trump on that score

              More people will die, for starters. You act like once a genocide is started, it’s automatically seen through to full completion, which is not only ridiculous, but child-like magic thinking. Genocide is committed by people, in this case at the behest of their government. A government who, in this case, very much needs US support. A government who did not want to slam their foot on the gas while Biden was president because while he supported their genocide, he wasn’t an enthusiastic participant in it.

              Now, Trump’s going to be president. Trump is an enthusiastic participant in Israel’s genocide. So now Israel is free to floor it without having to worry about US support drying up, because they know that Trump and the Republican majority you imbeciles allowed to be voted into congress are into it.

              This means that more people are going to die. Probably a lot more. It also means that Palestinian refugees will have one fewer country to flee to, as there’s no way in fuck that they’ll be welcomed into the US with Trump as president.

              I personally think that more people dying is worse. But then I’m not a stupid, imbecilic monster like you. So fuck you, and fuck the other guy I responded to as well.

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                I’m not American, so our perspectives will always be different. From where the rest of the world is sitting, Americans have never given a tin shit about natural justice or respect for another country’s autonomy. You guys have been in the coup business for over a hundred years. How many governments have been overthrown because they weren’t compliant enough, not friendly enough to your corporate interests or simply standing in the way of your geopolitical ambitions? Pacific islands blown apart or outright stolen, dark money handed to murderous dictators, killer regimes installed and resources sucked away. Spare me the rationalism about one particular brand of domestic American politics being slightly less worse than the other. If your country is balls deep in the misery of what’s going on in Palestine already, there won’t be too many left to murder when Trump takes office in January.

                Coke or Pepsi, feller.

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                  You have already established that you are uniquely unqualified to have an opinion on the matter. You are, as you say, not an American.

                  I say this not to point out that you don’t have eyes, or that you don’t pay attention to world politics. More that you don’t see the full picture that Americans see. While I completely disagree with your assessment as regards Palestine, I concede that both Democrats and Republicans are pro-genocide. It is simply a difference of degree. It is the entire rest of the picture that you seem to be missing. You do not seem to acknowledge the tremendous threat another Trump administration poses to those Americans who are non-heterosexual, non-male, non-white, and non-cis. I promise you that I am not being hyperbolic or alarmist in my discourse here. If you are unable to find hundreds of alarming things on every single one of those fronts with a simple google search, I would be happy to provide a handful of sources for you.

                  America has not had a good choice for leaders for a long time. Harm reduction has been the name of the game for as long as I’ve been alive, and that is a long damn time. Choosing Trump for president is maximizing harm, end of story. And I will fight anybody who says otherwise.

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                    How American of you to assume that I am unqualified to have an opinion about the US supporting a genocide in the Middle East. Should the rest of the world just look the other way?

                    Nobody is arguing that Trump isn’t a disaster. However, your country elected the bastard, so it’s fundamentally your fucking problem. A problem you guys are also inflicting on the rest of us.

                    Having said that, I agree with many of the points you are making.

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                You voted for a genocide apologist and your country and tax dollars are paying for the bombs that killed my friends in lebannon.

                You do not give a shit about foreigners and you were ready to throw them under the bus in exchange for your own safety.

                If there was any justice Biden would be on an electric chair for conspiracy to commit genocide, and so is Trump.

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                  You do not give a shit about foreigners and you were ready to throw them under the bus in exchange for your own safety.

                  I’m sorry if this comes off as offensive, but I really want to know: precisely how stupid are you? This is not a rhetorical question. I legitimately want to know how fucking stupid you are so that I can formulate an appropriate response.

                  The reason I ask is because you seem to be suggesting that Donald Trump is somehow less bad for Palestinians than Joe Biden is. This is a conclusion that can only be reached if you are completely oblivious to reality, or lack the IQ necessary to drink from a straw. So which is it, in your case?

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                    Yeah resort to insult you fkn monster go kill yourself you genocidal bitch I’m very sorry your fav genocider lost but you’re a scumbag.

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      I mean, they’re just gonna go from genocide Joe to genocide convicted criminal Donald so not much of an upgrade there.