I definitely require high speed internet access. Other than that, I could use some help! EDIT: Mountains are not a deal breaker. Water would be nice, but sea level rise is a concern.
EDIT: Oh, Come ONNNN!!!
Don’t come to Canada. If I was able to leave this country, I would. We have so many of the same problems as the US. I would go to Europe
I would go to Europe
Lol, as if the right isn’t on the rise pretty much everywhere and WW3 is brewing in our own back yard…
Capitalism is decaying in to fascism globally and rapidly. Wherever you go in the world, you WILL be up against varying levels of the same bullshit, and while I understand less bullshit is easier to live with, without active resistance, it becomes more bullshit real fucking quick, and you’ll be back where you started.
Immigration is exchanging one set of problems for another. If immigration is a vast improvement, those problems are in the background. But if it isn’t, then it takes a lot more work on your part to work through them.
Many of us are quite familiar with American politics. If you emigrate, you’ll figure out why.
This might surprise you, but Canada has angry dumb rednecks too.
You did not read the article. This is WAY beyond being a dumb redneck. This is systematic dismantling of our entire system of government, to maintain the oligarchy and ruling class in perpetuity.
While much less embedded in Canada, the same forces that are pushing Project2025 in the US are also trying to do the same here in Canada. So far they’re not nearly as advanced, and they are still facing strong pushback on their regressive plan, but they are still trying. That shit is leaking over the border.
Fortunately, for now, Canada is nowhere near as far down that fascist path as the US is.
But if you’re trying to escape it, I would recommend against Alberta.
What’s the justification (yes I know, logic might not be a factor).
But some argue that US was always a Christian stage but Canada clearly never was.
Edit: turns out nope, Canada was founded on similar principles…
Wtf mate.
Not surprising. Canada has a legacy of sheltering shitbirds, so they’ve been around a while. Canada took in the Confederate leaders after the civil war. Jefferson Davis was allowed to live his life in comfort in Toronto after he betrayed his country. Canada along with Britain even aided the Confederacy by providing them with a fleet and supplies.
If you go to Southern Ontario, you find plantation style homes that were built by the Confederates after they came here.
I mean, didn’t them States have and still have the right to cecede? I thought the whole idea of the USA was that it was a commonwealth of states that had the freedom to leave any time.
So how did Jeffers D betray his country? I’m not able to check wikipedia right now, but may I trouble you to clarify?
There are literally thousands of books and articles on the subject, in at a bit of a loss at this question
Humour me, please
Yes, USA is in a for a really bad time, and Canada definitely looks better in comparison. And while it is, as a Canadian I still fantasize about trying to move to europe. Grass is always greener.
Just don’t expect to escape all the nonsense automatically by coming here because for all we know we’re just lagging behind a few years. I have had the disspointing experiences of finding some of my Canadian friends were in favour of the Trump victory.
And then the housing prices.
Moving here is going to be a long term drop in quality of life. Wages are lower, the dollar is weaker, taxes are higher and the “free” health care is not free.
I wouldn’t get my hopes up, you want to come here and still work for your current US employer? What does Canada have to gain from that? You’re not coming to fill a gap for us, you want to move to reap the benefits without any direct involvement.
I mean OP would be paying taxes here and spending money in our economy, while not taking an existing job. That’s pretty good.
That doesn’t really count on a citizenship application, though.
Or taking one place in the annual quota for someone that would come here to work in a field where we need people, like healthcare.
This seems to be a non sequitur. OP is asking about where to live not where to find employment.
There are visas under the free trade agreement with the US and Mexico that enable movement of employees between the three countries. These have been in place since the 1990s.
I don not get this response. OP wants to come build a life in Canada. Sounds like direct involvement. Also wants to bring their $120k annual income which will get injected into the Canadian economy. Sounds ok to me.
Their income comes from a job that doesn’t benefit Canadians and we have immigration quotas. Anytime an immigrant comes to Canada to work remotely for a foreign company they’re taking the place of someone that could come here to work in a field where we need workforce.
So anyone who wants to come build a life im Canada is welcome? Or is it as long as they have money?
Man… if I could I’d move to Whistler lol
Living in a resort town isn’t as good as you might think. You get annoyed by tourists very quickly and eventually you end up taking the place for granted anyway
If you can afford that, you can jump in your helicopter and go wherever you want.
Permanent residence in #Canada is hard to obtain, though it’s far easier if you take a job, in a field where you’re in demand. By government policy, the number of people getting permanent residence each year is being cut back, so even that may not be sufficient.
I’m retired and have no hope of getting permanent status, unless Canada starts accepting asylum claims by U.S. citizens.
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#MovingToCanadaMy own plan, and yes it involves privilege, is to obtain shelter in Canada and then be ready to travel there intermittently. We can visit temporarily for 6 months at a time without a visa. My choice of location is determined by how far I can go by car with a cat.
And maybe then I can find some way to help people for whom getting out of the U.S. is a matter of survival.
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British Columbia.
Kelowna, Kamloops, Abbotsford maybe.
Vancouver Island is great but not many mountains. If you have the money, the North Shore in Vancouver is awesome.
Kamloops, BC?
It’s got mountains around, it’s not completely caught in the Conservative trap, you’ve got decent amenities of civilization around without the big city or suburb vibe of Metro Vancouver, (I still think it pales as a “city” compared to Toronto), but as a day trip you can head there to sightsee or pick up big box stuff.
If you want something more laid back I second Yukon.
I’m in Kelowna and loving it. We’re turning more progressive as the city grows. NDP lost the ejection here by 40 votes out of 25783 total votes, that’s pretty good considering how conservative this area used to be and how much popularity the “fuck Trudeau” style conservatism has gained and retained over the years. Can’t really go wrong with any of the small towns around here either, from Vernon to Lake Country to West Kelowna to Summerland to Penticton.
I am not looking forward to the next federal election. Trudeau is about to pull a Biden and stay in too long and hand the whole thing to the right in a landslide. If only that dummy didn’t give up on electoral reform the second he got into power. What a waste
If you’re ok downgrading from epic Rockies style mountains to just like… Big hills (a hundred foot cliff is still pretty impressive up close, ok 😅), then the maritimes might be pretty good.
Summer and winter are much milder near the cost (although I wouldn’t call the weather good), and the east coast is cheaper than the West Coast.
If you live near to a “city” you can get good Internet. I have like 1.5gb fibre, and I live on the boundary between suburban and rural.
Might I recommend Milo Alberta? Super cheap. They use an air raid siren every day to announce lunch (the town is closed other then the restaurant 12-1).
If you want something with mountains, you likely can not afford that.
Try Drummheller if you have not seen it its in the badlands. Looks like this
As a siren enthusiast, I love when towns still carry on the traditional noon siren blasts. That doesn’t happen much here in Ontario anymore.
FYI, Milo’s siren isn’t an air raid siren, small sirens like Milo’s (a Federal Model 2 in this case) are typically fire sirens used to summon volunteer firefighters to the station during a fire call. Milo’s is on the fire department, so it’s probably the fire siren. They’re usually tested daily or weekly to make sure they work when needed.
Odd they always called it an air raid siren, but I also know it has been replaced a few times now. Might have been one at one point.
A lot of people just call every siren an “air raid siren” even though no siren has been built for that purpose in 40 years in North America lol. It’s entirely possible they had an actual air raid siren at one point, probably built by Canadian Line Materials.
My guess is I was and then changed out over and over until people just assumed like you said that it is an “air raid” siren.
How much money do you have?
The only affordable places left are absolute shitholes
If money is no object, move to Victoria
Let’s say I make $90k US dollars a year, and I work remote
In Toronto or Vancouver, you’d be a peasant.
In Winnipeg, you’d be a king.
You’ll still need a work permit to work in Canada, even for a US company remotely. So hopefully you’re up to speed on that process. In terms of where to live, there are some places in BC outside major cities that are affordable. Might be worth taking a road trip around to check some out
I’m in the midst of the process. Road Trip Sounds good. How’s the weather in BC in December? 🤭
Let us know how it goes. I’m curious to see how you manage to move forward on this. I’m aware of a lot of options here (e.g. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/vanhack_working-remotely-from-canada-with-your-current-activity-7120340233904148481-GXUd ) but curious to see which one ends up being the right fit for you in particular.
- From a fellow exile who got out to Canada in the first term
Did you keep your US job, or find work in Canada? Are you a software engineer? I basically project manage software engineers
I had to find work in Canada, but since I am a software engineer, I was able to take advantage of NAFTA (back when it was still called that) to help me do so.
Like Washington but colder
Actually, like Washington but warmer and drier - global warming has really transformed the area.
Rainy on the coast but roads in the interior can get dicey if there’s snow. Stick to major highways.
Will you be able to work remote from Canada?
That’s enough money to live basically anywhere. 90k usd is a lot more money than most people make in Canada.
If I could live anywhere and work remote it would probably be Masset, Ucluelet, Nelson, or maybe Whitehorse if you don’t mind the cold
I lived in Anchorage for 3 years. I am down with cold! 🤣 We have offices and employees all over the world, so that should not be an issue.
Honestly, Manitoba may not be a bad choice for you (unless the no mountains thing is a deal breaker).
- left leaning government for at least another three years
- $120k CAD salary will be very comfortable anywhere in the province
- cold as balls half the year (since you’re okay with cold)
- lots of farmland for locally grown food
Yukon is a very special place to say the least. Think Alaska but with extreme friendliness and a left wing attitude.
We have offices and employees all over the world, so that should not be an issue.
Have you considered talking with your managers and asking them for overseas transfer?
Curious to see about this. I was in a similar situation (“offices and employees all over the world”) but still could not get my company to sponsor me overseas, even though my direct manager and my skip worked really hard to try and make it work.
A bit over $120k Canadian. Enough but not as rich as you think in Vancouver.
Bit of a curveball, but for remote work have you considered Barbados?
A year might work or would be nice. Barring any catastrophic tsunami’s or hurricanes. After that, I fear it might sink into the sea.
Nelson BC
You aren’t going to find mountains in any of the parts of Canada that you’ll want to live in. BC is trending right, Alberta and Saskatchewan are the right (Alberta is the Texas of Canada), Ontario is a shit-show, and Quebec is… Well, how good is your French?
I’d suggest PEI or Nova Scotia and satellite internet.
I can forgo mountains if necessary. I mean, we’re gonna have RFK Jr running Health and Human services here. It’s just going to be a shit show.
Manitoba has, uh… hills ;)
But also has a left leaning government (for at least another three years, probably longer with our voting patterns) and low CoL. $120k CAD can be very comfortable here, even in Winnipeg.
You can have mountains i n BC, you don’t need to live downtown Vancouver to see them. Lots of rural areas
You forgot about Manitoba (that’s okay, everyone does lol). We’re safe from a willfully destructive government for at least another three years.
Oops, sorry… That was an oversight; my mind skips over Manitoba when I’m thinking of the large, southern provinces.
I also didn’t bring up the Northwest Territories, Nunavet, Yukon, New Brunswick, or Newfoundland and Labrador. If they like mountains, NT and Yukon might both work, although getting any kind of supplies in will likely be difficult.
Nova Scotia has some nice mountain ranges within driving distamce to areas with good internet. Particularly in cape Breton, though they are more right wing.
We also have donair if that helps.
Donair always helps
If you want to be near mountains, want affordable living and are progressive, Lethbridge, AB may be your best bet. The landscape there is a bit weird. Looks kind or like Iceland or something. Super hilly with big valleys and very few trees outside or the city, but definitely not a big city vibe like you’d find in Edmonton or Calgary.
Pretty mild climate too.
But the Alberta government is fucking idiotic, so I can’t say what will happen in the future with healthcare and human rights.
Always windy
Hmm, the others are saying Alberta is right wing
Go to any Canadian news website and search Danielle Smith.
She is Alberta’s premier (equivalent to a US governer).
Compared to US it’s nothing lol
Most of western Canada is right-wing. Especially Alberta and Saskatchewan. Outside of Vancouver (where living is beyond unaffordable for most), BC is also pretty conservative, albeit less overall I’m sure than Alberta. The tricky part is that quality of life is quite good in Alberta. Housing is affordable and we’re the least taxed province, so if you can live with the occasional stupid hick with a “FUCK TRUDEAU” flag or decal, life is pretty good here. It’s really your only affordable option if you want to live near the mountains. Otherwise the Appalachians do extend into the eastern maritime provinces. Jobs are just extemely scarce and often seasonal out that way.
I immigrated from Michigan back in 2017. I’m very left-wing and so is my wife who has lived here her entire life. The province nearly flipped last election so things have been improving on that front, and you’re certainly not going to be the only leftist around. Well, unless you move to a small town or Grand Prairie or Fort Mac.
Lethbridge and Edmonton are the most left-leaning places in the province. Edmonton, however, is fucking huge… So you’re not getting away from the city up that way.
There is no escaping the right-wing brain rot. It’s everywhere now. 2016 spread into Canada like wildfire. But when I came here my life improved tenfold. I make three times what I did back home for the same line of work (retail/produce management). I have healthcare, a daughter, bought a home with my wife this summer. It’s a million times better than the States, but we are looking down the barrel of gun. I wish you the best on your immigration, and I hope you’re as happy here as I am, wherever you wind up.
Alberta is the most taxed province as far as income tax though I think
It’s one of the least taxed and there’s no provincial sales tax
https://www.nerdwallet.com/ca/personal-finance/provincial-tax-rates
Yeah, no sales tax, but high income tax. You’re paying tax - just in a different form.
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Did you read what I said and checked the website? It has one of the LOWEST income tax in Canada AND no sales taxes. That’s not even taking the basic exemption amount into consideration, with Alberta having the highest!
It doesn’t have high income taxes by any sane metrics. You can compare to US States where the government provides no services to the population at all but then people are just paying even more to the private sector instead.
The thing about Alberta is that they consistently elect the most hardcore right wing crazies in all of Canada.
And they also consistently elect genuinely progressive, openly socialist governments of the kind you imagine Bernie Sanders might run.
There are no middle of the road centrists in 'Berta. You’re either a frothing mouthed “Jewish Space Lasers” kind of crazy, or you’re a proud union member ready to give everyone UBI and free education.
The latter tend to be found more in the cities, as always.
Unfortunately the former seem to have the edge overall in elections.
So, politically, it’s definitely not a great environment, but culturally you’d actually find a lot of like minded folks there. The problem is that right now you’d probably spend your time hanging out with those like minded folks grumbling about your QAnon premier as she sells off the entire healthcare system and deletes sex education from schools.
Consistently?
Alberta has had one NDP government in the past 50 years, all other governments were conservative.
Sorry, what I meant by that is that individual voters either vote for one or the other. I wasn’t referring to the overall state of who actually wins. But I get that that wasn’t clear at all from how I phrased it.
Ah ok, I reread it, you were talking about municipal government. Yeah, sadly municipalities can’t do much if the provincial government gets in their way and with first past the post and electoral districts… Well, conservatives win Alberta 95% of the time!
Oh that’s easy. They’ll be destroyed by a party that can’t lose an election.
The UCP just introduced the most extreme anti-trans legislation in North America. They have been methodically and relentlessly destroying public healthcare, and handing private contracts to their friends. Education has been revamped with a curriculum that explicitly promotes oil and gas production, denies the harm of residential schools, and encourages rote memorization over comprehension. Oh yes, and public charter schools. They’ve recently started to make inroads on ultimately banning abortion.
And they’ll get reelected, over and over again.
It you’re leaving for progressive reasons, Alberta is north Texas. BC is pretty progressive, although I don’t know how they lean outside of metros. I have my suspicions though.
Alberta is nothing like Texas. Alberta is largely an atheist population for one thing
But the Christfuckers we do have are obnoxious and loud enough to make you think otherwise
Not really. I grew up in rocky mountain house. One of the most conservative ridings in all of canada, and I grew up surrounded by atheism for the most part. It’s way more atheist now compared to then as well
Go to fort vermillion area and see how stheist they are. Area is full of menonites.
Lol the NDP only won by like 20 votes this election so not as progressive as you’d think. Also our NDP is still center left so not that progressive at all.
This is very helpful, thank you. I am super liberal.
Good luck :)
You’re going to want to stick to cities for the most part.
Vancouver area is nice, but goddamn expensive. Love it here, but the I have no economic prospects.
Small town and rural BC is very close to Alberta. They got a bulk deal on Fuck Trudeau stickers for their trucks.
I mean, honestly, that’s true for the entire country.
True pretty much everywhere. Rural folk dislike the government and prefer to rely on themselves. They’re right wing. City folk do the opposite.
That pattern is followed almost everywhere, from America to Canada to Australia to Finland.
Yeah, that is what I assumed
If you want mountains, you’re kinda limited. Vancouver, BC, has great mountains, ocean, and forest access, but COL is pretty high for Canada. Calgary, AB is the closest city to the Canadian Rockies, but is in the middle of nowhere elsewise.
If you’re looking for good internet, though, you’re going to want Vancouver or Toronto. Those are the tech hubs of Canada.
Love Calgary and Edmonton. But the UCP is ruining this province. Please don’t come here.
We’d need to know what they mean by high-speed but I think it’s mostly everywhere nowadays. Just the very remote won’t have it. I know farmers with high speed internet.
We have really good internet in Winnipeg. We currently have 1.5 gig fibreoptic for our home. Winnipeg has a decent cultural scene, but no mountains, I’m sorry to say. Cost of living is one of the better options, at least for western Canada. As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, there is a lot of racism towards First Nations here.
If you’re good with cold, you might enjoy it. We were literally coldervthan Mars recently. Not a great city for your car, especially if it rides low to the ground, lol.
