Most who voted for him are going to be quite surprised when it sucks for them too.

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    I vote NY and California secede so we can form independent states because we’re tired of supporting the entire country.

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    Electing Trump the first time was the equivalent of Brexit.

    Electing him twice is the equivalent of setting your own home on fire, walking back inside while the house is still burning and taking a nap, hoping that the flames will only destroy your neighbour’s house.

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      Electing Trump the first time was the equivalent of proverbial/technical Brexit.

      Electing him twice is the equivalent of literal Brexit. As in physically moving that damp island away from Europe by using nukes.

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      Too many friends and distant family, from marginalized communities telling me “They don’t mean me, I am a legal American citizen”

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        My dad is an asshole. He’s controlling. He wants everything his way. He wants you to be dependant on him. He’ll accomplish this by sabotaging you, and any life progress you’ve made.

        He had a seizure. He fell down, and he banged his head on a table at a laundromat.

        He was in the hospital for 2 months. He had a heart attack 3 weeks after the seizure, and required double bypass surgury. He would have been released 3 days later, until he had the heart attack. So his total time in the hospital was 2 months instead of 3 weeks.

        I was there. Every day he was in the hospital. I was there. He complained about how terrible the hospital food was. I brought him freah fruit straight from the market. I cooked him a daily meal. I approved everything wish his doctors.

        He doesn’t remember that. He has no memory of his hospital stay. When he came out of the hospital, we BEGGED him to stay with his mother for a few weeks. He had lost use of one of his eyes. He had no balance. And his mom lived in a building made for the elderly. My aunt at the time semi lived there, taking care of my grandma. So to take care of him too would be no problem. Plus, there was no stairs. He could barely move two feet without wobbling.

        But he demanded to go home. He yelled at me for trying to help him. He wouldn’t let my aunt into his house to cook him meals. He wouldn’t let me in to help with cleaning and laundry. He pushed us all out. I reminded him that we’ve been helping him for months. He argued that we hadn’t. I told him “I’ve visited you every day before work. I’ve brought you meals. I’ve brought you a rotating set of clean clothes. Why do you think you had a laundry basket in your hospital room?”

        And his response…“Well who asked you to do THAT?”

        That was the moment that really hurt. The moment when all you want to do is help, but you’re being insulted for your efforts. To know none of it was appriciated. And that no further efforts would be appriciated.

        My point in response to what you said is, sometimes we want to help those in our life, but they’ll insist they know best. Even when their mental capacity is diminished. Even though it hurts, sometimes all you can do is wash your hands of the situation.

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          Godamn this is sad.

          A lot of this reminds me of my dad, down to the non functioning eye due to stroke. He’s an asshole, controlling, etc, but not quite this bad.

          I really do hope you’re able to make peace with this if you haven’t already.

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            I’ve washed my hands of it. He’s my dad. I’ll be there for him if he ever realizes he needs help. Until then I’ve resigned myself to knowing that I’m not the problem. I’m not able to help him, because he won’t accept help. He has a mental block on being able to accept that he’s in his 70s, and he’s getting older, and his 41 year old son, that 30 years ago was his little boy, is more capable physically than he is right now.

            He can’t accept that I can fix plumbing because I can bend down. He can’t accept that I can shovel snow without pulling my back. All because he can’t accept that he needs me now. Not the other way around. And I’m happy to help him. But he’s not happy to accept that it’s 2024. Not 1994. Which I get. 1994 was awesome. Green Day had just relesed Dookie. I could still wear those bead thing necklaces that washing tub plugs use as a chain. And yin yang bracelets. The Sega Genesis was awesome. Jurassic Park had just come out on VHS and wasn’t ruined by the sequals yet. The countrys political spectrum wasn’t a raging dumpster fire. 1994 was pretty great. I wish we could ALL go back…but we can’t. We have to live in 2024.

            So the most I can do to move on is not take it personally. Try to make my 40s something enjoyable, ya know? We sll went through covid together, and just as everyone was getting back to a sense of normal, I was diagnosed with cancer. I spent a year of my life kicking cancers ass, and I won. Shout-out to Dr Crawford, and the MetroHealth medical system. In the midst of all that, Gram died. She was 103, but whenever you lose your hero in life, it’s ALWAYS too soon.

            And NOW a year later I’m getting back to normal. The dust has settled. Those events with my dad in the hospital were 3 years ago. 3 years seems relatively short, but I swear we’re on some different timeline right now. I swear it feels like 20 years ago. Calanders and logic tell me that it JUST happened recently, but I swear it was a lifetime ago.

            And now…trump…

            So I’ve decided that in order to find peace, I’m just going to mentally check out here for a while. I’m going to buy my first house. I’m going to go to work. And I’m going to concentrate on me. Because mentally these last few years have broken me. And the next few years look scary as hell. I can’t drink, because I used to be an alcoholic, and that gave me cancer. I can’t smoke weed, because my job tests. I’ve lost friends. I’ve lost family. I feel isolated. I feel stressed. So I’m going to buy a run down house, and fix it up. I’m just going to spend all my time either working, or sawing, or drilling, or sanding. Just really taking my mind off shit. Just concentrate on me. Which is not in my nature. I’m not used to being selfish. But…I just need to work on me, as I work on a house.

            I’m sorry if this came off as a long winded rant, but I just needed to vent.

            Tomorrow is a new day. For me, both literally and metaphorically. And for me, I’m taking me first step to buying a house.

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              Fuck yeah dude. Looking out for other people only can put you in a pretty deep hole. It took getting clean from opiates for me to finally accept that. Believe it or not I literally told myself yesterday, if no one else is going to give a shit, I’m just going to have to direct all my energy towards myself and my SO. Its really exhausting, but I hope it works out for us.

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    Britain will have a hard time topping this. Maybe if Farage takes over the Tories and they win the next election, they’ll come up with a fitting riposte.

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    lol you’re underestimating the power of spin. goo policies have made things harder for the working class for decades. but they spin it so artfully that the working class strongly backs the GOP.

    if things become worse for voters, trump will blame the left. and some far right nutjob will get elected by a landslide again.

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      trump is also being sentenced in a few weeks so likely he’ll just resign and we’ll get couch fucker, which was probably the heritage foundations plan all along.

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      “Ƿ did it Pætcrik! Ƿ ſeıvd Pælistuın!”

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      We did it Patrick! We saved Palestine!"

      Uı’m lu̇kı Uı’m tuıd t NYS Eırėbz æ n Micigen Eırėbz.

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      I’m lucky I’m tied to NYC Arabs and not Michigan Arabs.

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        Could you please let it go, at least for a little while? We’re going through enough stress at the moment without playing Captain Midnight’s Decoder Ring on all your comments.

        You can go back to being a special little butterfly… well, not when things go back to normal - that may never happen - but, how about giving the rest of Lemmy a break for a week or so?

        Pretty please?

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          N Mı prȯblėm if klikıŋ ė ſpoılṙ tæg z ſėm Hṙkyleyėn efṙt t Y.

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          Not my problem if clicking a spoiler tag is some Herculean effort to you.

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    well, no, brexit only fucked over great britain, re-electing trump fucked over the entire planet, ukraine and taiwan specifically, but the entire free world is going to suffer from american disengagement. whole lot more people going to be speaking russian in the next two years. for the folks who think america only fucked themselves, lol, thereastormacomin meme springs to mind, and i for one, apologize in advance for what we’ve done

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      taiwan

      fuck… didn’t even consider that till now…

      Even with Trump, the US military complex will just NOT let TSMC to be taken away from them.

      But as soon as foundries are done and producing on US soil… then ya… pray for Taiwan, because US won’t have a good reason to risk direct conflict with China over that island.

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    I’d say it’s even worse. Because we"ve done this before. It’s more like if Brexit happened, and then a few years later they admitted it was terrible, undid it, and THEN did a second brexit. Knowing full well what the first one was.

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    There was an article back when Brexit happened that stated something few people believed at the time - this will likely result in Trump winning the GOP nomination and securing the white house.

    It’s exactly the same again. The elite don’t see the problem, so working class people vote for the destructive option as it harms those in power as much as it harms them.

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    They’ll be told that the “other people” are also being hurt, so they’ll be happy.

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    Read foundations of geopolitics by alexsandr dugin. This was all laid out years ago. In black and white.

    Brexit was a Russian op.

    Trump is a (part) Russian op.

    Ending NATO is a Russian op

    Aligning with Iran is.

    The only good thing is they want to destabilize China.

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    The first time was like shitting the bed. It was an unpleasant mess for everyone involved, but potentially forgivable, assuming the mess was cleaned up.

    The second time is smearing shit on the walls.

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    The difference being half of Americans actually chose this. It was not a half passed unnoficial referendum.

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      The same number of Americans chose him this time as last time. What changed is that 13M Americans stayed at home rather than vote for Harris instead of Biden.

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        I think the point is he won both the popular and electoral. In 2016 he lost the popular vote but won the electoral anyway.

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        If you count the election as the biggest possible poll, that let’s you infer which way the non-voters would have gone.

        And if you are a non-voter, that means you have declared the eventual outcome as your preferred outcome, since you did not vote otherwise.

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          any journal that printed a study that did polling with the methodology of this election would lose pretty much all of their credibility

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      No, half of Americans did not. Maybe a third chose it, while another third chose to do nothing.

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    Electing Trump (Nov 2016) the first time was the American equivalent of Brexit (June 2016).