Am I the only one who thinks that IF the US survives this election that things have to change radically?
You can’t have a democracy like this when a convicted criminal mobster wannabe can just get enough votes to install himself as a dictator and if he doesn’t that he just organizes a deadly insurrection to try and get himself there anyway
The USA needs to get rid of this winner takes all system, it needs to rid itself of this system that requires a president. What it needs is 20-30 political parties that each get a share of the pie and have to work together.
This situation has gotten worse EVERY election since Reagan, last time we had a failed coup, this time we may get a dictatorship, what. The. Fuck.
I’ll continue. The supreme court needs to be removed entirely and be replaced with whatever is better. The police forces need to be completely overhauled. Pacs and super PACs need to be illegal immediately, every cent in politics needs to be accounted for. An absolute split between church and state, and while at it, tax churches heavily. Undo all gerrymandering, return taxation to how it was in 1940, updates for current times tomokug loop holes but going up to 100% on income after an x amount per year. Nobody should be able to be a billionaire, hell, nobody should be able to be a 100 millionaire. After a certain amount of wealth, that’s it, you can make more but it all goes to taxes.
Just a few things to start to
Yeah we have to outgrow the POV that says putting limits on wealth equals communism, or means no freedom. Democracy loses its meaning if kings can live inside it - which is what we get if wealth gives individuals more power than the rest of society. We’re on course back to the age of aristocrat landowners and tenant farmers. That’s not human progress, that’s degeneration. To me the slogan, “We won’t go back!” means a lot more than avoiding another Trump administration. It means recharting the course of our society away from a nobles vs peasants world and toward a world of true equality. It will take changes that are much more fundamental than imposing taxes on wealth. We have to de-legitimize extreme wealth and disable the huge leverage it gives a few people over the rest of us.
I fully agree with you but I’d do it through taxes. It’s not forbidden to be ultra wealthy, it’s just impossible to become that. Just after a certain about of either current wealth or income, income taxes go to 100% and at certain wealth levels, be it through owning buildings, yachts, or whatever, taxes will make sure you’ll have to sell off some of those assets until you’re within normal range. Nothing wrong with that in my book
Okay but you could also lock people in a room full of water and say you’re not forbidding breathing. Technically the truth, but not if we’re being honest. Using the law to make something impossible is forbidding it. Taxation doesn’t address the belief that the big bad gubmint is stealing something you earned. I think the underlying problem is way more complex to solve by just doing that. We have to get rid of the scarcity mentality, a survival trait that will take a long-term effort to eliminate. We’re probably talking multiple lifetimes.
Taxation isn’t theft, you get loads of things back. Roads, police, (in functional countries) healthcare, fire departments, military to protect against invaders… If you’re rich it’s easier to pay more, and you should
No arguments
I have a rewritten constitution in my profile, so nah, you ain’t ð only one bro
I have a rewritten constitution in my profile
bro
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My concern since late 2018 or so has been that America is effectively terminal, it’s just that we don’t know it yet. That we’ve passed some internal tipping point before waking up where even if we try to course correct, it’s too late to stop the decline. I’m not sure we can get the momentum anymore to fix it. Biden and even Kamala feel more like a temporary reprieve where we’ll only have enough power to stave off total collapse, but not enough to actually make any headway. Which is basically all Biden has been able to do.
That’s a legit worry, but since we don’t know where that tipping point is we don’t know if we’ve passed it or not. I think it’s just as legitimate to maintain hope, and here’s why. The repeating pattern we’ve seen is that when progressives start to institute policies to improve people’s lives, there’s always a lag before any tangible results. During the wait the pendulum shifts back to regressivism, Republicans get in control, and then proceed to take credit as things improve. They use this momentum for more elitist policies that reverse the gains, but the harm to the general public also has a lag and doesn’t become apparent until the pendulum has shifted back to progressives, who inherit a pile of shit to contend with.
But MAGA has fragmented the Republican party so hard, after he loses the election it will take the party years to recover, as the rats claw each other to pieces trying to get on top. Instead of the usual 4-8 years it could take 12-16 for conservatives to regroup. This will provide enough time for progressive policies to take root and bear fruit, and for progressives to actually get credit and build on them. It will be impossible for Republicans to convince even their own that things are bad enough to go back to retro policies. They’ll have to think of a new playbook.
I just think this whole period of time is going to move the goalposts to the left, America will still have a chance to resemble something like the ideal we were taught to expect.
Hey, I know you, you’re ðat guy
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So true liberal bestie, democrats are better because they silently sends billions to israel to carry out genocide while trump can’t keep his stupid mouth shut.
Man, must suck having to work for Putin as a troll. Some people would feel shameful
I see the FSB has migrated from “ml” instances.
Do try not to shit where we all eat.
Doubling down on the dumb Russia shit, huh? It says you joined a month ago, where did you migrate from? You should take yourself and the rest of your swarm of locusts who upvote/downvote in unison over to reddit which is already shat up with astroturfed accounts.
You didn’t even bother addressing my point that democrats are sending billions in support of a genocide, instead you’ve taken the lazy route of accusing me and others of being associated with Russia. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if your accusation is just an admittance of you yourself being a shill account.
The tankies realized we all had .ml instance blocked so they started moving to .world
Like, there’s lemmygrad. Why do they bother going to instances they know don’t tolerate their views?
Why did liberal “high IQ” redditors jump from reddit to lemmy? It seems they brought along all their users from Eglin Air Force Base.
I’m not from .ml, as you can see my account is over a year old, so it certainly wasn’t to evade some clowns blocking specific instances to create their own hivemind. Which of my views is it that you don’t tolerate? The one where I’m against anyone supporting genocide? I’m curious to know what you find intolerable about that.
- There are two choices in the United States 2024 election. No third party stands a ghost of a chance of winning. No, not even if the 30,000 people you can reach on Lemmy all vote for Timothy Greenparty.
- A Trump victory in 2024 would not only be just as bad if not worse for the citizens of Gaza than Harris would, but also pose an existential threat to a large number of vulnerable Americans (trans people, immigrants, women seeking abortions).
- Given the margins of victory in 2016 and 2020, Kamala might not win if leftists don’t vote for her.
- Snoozing fascism for four years is better than inviting it through the door now, and buys us time to build our defenses for when it comes back.
- Regardless of whether you do anything else to fight fascism or not, if you don’t vote, or you vote third party, you raise the chances that a Hitler admirer will enter the white house.
I’d like to focus my counterargument. Which of these statements do you disagree with?
Liberals are indeed famous for not forcing their views on others.
oh my god here we go
“some people think kamala is better than trump, and they want us to vote for kamala because trump is worse and stands a genuine chance at winning. liberals are forcing their opinion on us therefore it’s our duty to continue to scream BOTH SIDES BAD at them and circumvent their attempts to block us”? is that what you’re saying?
Tl;Dr: Reeee
Is Biden too stupid to realize that helping Bibi helps trump? Or does he just not care because supporting genocide is more important to him than the election?
Imagine being so dumb that you’d post something like this. Unbelievable
I think the most reasonable assumption would be that the Democrats reckon that coming out against Israel will lose them more zionist votes then sticking with Israel will lose them anti-genocide votes. And given the amount of money AIPAC has been throwing around against anti-zionist candidates in primaries, that might not be an incorrect reckoning.
Which means they’ve made the calculation that they don’t need or want the anti-genocide vote.
So don’t blame this anti-genocide voter for not voting for a candidate that doesn’t want me.
They’ve probably also figured out how many people saying that will actually fold with a little arm twisting. Would be super interesting to see those numbers.
And in doing so, you are hanging out to dry LGBTQ+, women, racial minorities, anyone working for minimum wage, anyone with health insurance, thousands of federal employees, the people of Ukraine, and when it really comes down to it, the people of Gaza.
There is no anti-genocide option on the table. Not in any meaningful way. It’s not a real choice at all, to be honest, but the direction is clear.
Imagine if all those people stood together against genocide instead of dividing over it. Women alone are like half the population… Why are they siding with genocide? They could elect anyone they want. Anyone with health insurance? That’s almost everyone. Bam, anyone they want. If a gay person votes for genocide how much should I really give a shit about them? There’s no “meaningful choice” because the libs get out early saying so… But if it’s not this election then certainly by the next one, millennials and zoomers are gonna be done with the old boomer parties… And good riddance
I can imagine. Let’s say all these groups unanimously decided not to vote for democrats. Then they ask who they do vote for.
Feminists vote for the best feminist candidate they can find. BLM votes for the best civil rights candidate they can find. LGBTQ people vote for the queerist person they can find. None of them support genocide, but none of them are voting for the same person.
Now Trump wins with the vote split 40/20/20/20. Great job, we overwhelmingly voted against genocide and it only got worse.
There is no anti-genocide option on the table. It is not a real choice.
There is no anti-genocide option on the table.
If you find yourself writing this, then stop what you’re doing and re-evaluate your entire ideology.
There is no anti-genocide option on the table. That’s not ideology, it’s reality.
There is an anti-genocide option on the table, but neither democrats nor republicans are willing to use it. You should stop defending people who support genocide by pretending genocide is the only option.
It’s not anything I can vote for, and not voting doesn’t get us there, either. There is no real choice.
If you hate imperialism hard enough, a viable third party candidate will emerge. You just have to try harder. /s
Dems will betray all those groups the instant it’s convenient for them.
They’ve already gone from “Trump’s border policy is abhorent” to “we’re doing Trump’s border policy”
They have no values, they are pro-genocide ffs
That’s correct. The solution isn’t to let Republicans win. It’s to protest until we get what we want. That got gay marriage instituted. It got the Civil Rights Acts signed. It’s getting states to sign the Electoral College Popular Vote Compact. It’s getting marijuana legalization passed. It’s even getting ranked choice voting signed.
Letting Republicans win is just accelerationism, and it doesn’t work.
No guys, you don’t understand. Mr scruffy has it all figured out and we’re all dummies who want genocide.
Thankfully Mr scruffy is working hard to get trump elected so all the lovely Muslims, whom Trump frequently compliments, are going to get sweet kisses every night and he’ll make sure those mean old Israelis don’t bother them.
its about money not votes. Usually whoever gets the most money wins.
Given the decline in traditional media, is this still true?
interesting question. Maybe I am unknowingly spouting propoganda. Looked it up. Its true over 80% of the time, but I thought that number would be higher. Theres a chart midway down the page if you want a TLDR
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/money-and-elections-a-complicated-love-story/
I can see money having greater influence at lower levels of government. I’m thinking more about advertising and the presidential race. I bet the returns are diminishing. Also Trump seems to generate a huge amount of publicity (good and bad) without spending much money.
Money mostly wins, but not always. Democrats desperately want it to be true always, but they’ve spent a ton of money on losing elections. Trump’s victory was the big one. It’s hard to have a popular campaign message and solid ground game campaigning and make tons of appearances, spending absurd amounts of money makes it easier.
The daily edge hahaha I’m mature
Ahhh, a tale as old as Reagan…
As old as Nixon!
To think what things constituted as crimes and scandals back in the hay day of Nixon.
Quote me if I’m wrong but isn’t this fucking illegal to have a private citizen act on behalf of the United States government?
Add it to the pile. He’s above the law
Nixon did it with the Vietnam War. Reagan did it with the Iranian Hostage Crisis. Trump did it with Putin in 2016 (and then Pardoned Michael Flynn for taking part in it).
Logan Act
Only applies to Little People
It really applies to nobody. The Logan Act might be the most ignored and pointless law in US history. Even stuff like Operation Red Dog was prosecuted under a totally different law.
Of all the Not Happening in stuff Trump could get prosecuted for, this is the most Not Happening.
Surely this law will apply to him.
he will write it in his CV under the list of convictions
blessuð
This would normally totally annihilate a presidential run. Fucks sake, they were ended by a guy saying “please clap” or having a weird laugh.
But then again, only cultists vote for this man.
Nixon did the same during the Vietnam war. He just wasn’t public about it. Same with Reagan during the hostage crisis.
There are no rules if there is an “R” next to your name.
Trump does something of this nature every week and I read this same comment every week.
This would normally totally annihilate a presidential run.
What annihilates a Presidential Run is heavily predicated on the propaganda machine surrounding the candidate.
In this case, you’ve got an American media that is fully in bed with the MIC and a big client state of the MIC generating enormous returns through procurement.
Why would a conglomerate that profits off sale of arms to Israel want a ceasefire? Why would media owned by these conglomerates bad mouth a candidate that promises to increase military aid and Pentagon spending?
For the same reason you see glowing coverage of Saudi Arabia, Dubai, the Philippines, and India, you’re going to keep seeing us love bomb our favorite genocidal dictatorship in the Middle East.
It’s not just the Maga hats. There is a substantial amount of the population that thinks claims like this are just muckracking by “the other side”, and that he is really the better candidate in terms of economy, border security, and traditional values.
Will Dems hold Bibi accountable?
Oh they won’t?
Worse than same.
So your reaction to learning that Trump is actively sabotaging peace talks with Israel is… Blame the Democrats?
Seriously smooth brain conservative take, holy shit.
Reported.
worse than the same? this must be a mental lapse or just bad faith. I mean I would totally understand “not enough” but “worse than same”? Are you living in a parallel universe? The moment Trump is elected you will start seeing people rallying for more support to Israel and probably sending American troops over there.
"Mayor Quimby even released Sideshow Bob from prison!
Vote Sideshow Bob."
I’m not supporting Trump, I’m wondering why Israel is so central to democratic policy when they have literally done everything in their power to elect Trump?
I can’t imagine anything besides corruption or kompromat at this point. Literally nothing else makes sense.
It is old geopolitics.
Israel, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, etc. benefit greatly from doing things the way the US likes. They make massive amounts of money, get a massive military to keep enemies at bay, they get to keep deciding how much crude oil costs, and they get massive amounts of weapons. In return they all spy for the US, allow the US to put massive military facilities in their countries, and protect the petrodollar.
It is that simple. The Palestinians have very little wealth, military, and political clout. So they get run over by the machine. Is it horrific? Yes. Is it easy to understand? Also, yes.
I’m not supporting Trump, I’m wondering
Just Asking Questions, is all
I’m not supporting Trump
That comment you made above is supporting Trump. You saying you’re not supporting him makes no difference.
Criticizing Dems cowardly weakness isn’t supporting the thing they’re afraid of.
Calling them
Worse than same.
Is.
You’ve literally said they’re worse than Trump.
Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, at least it’s an ethos.
Cool. Completely irrelevant to what I said.
And criticizing spoiler third party shills isn’t supporting genocide.
They aren’t a spoiler where I’m standing. Undecided voters aren’t here. You have a lot of nerve to call anyone a shill with that rhetoric.
They aren’t a spoiler where I’m standing
Cognitive dissonance will do that to someone that chooses to forego critical thinking.
You have a lot of nerve to call anyone a shill
Thanks friend!
The guy is literally too stupid to stop hitting himself in the nuts. And then he blames the “deep state” for making him hit himself in the nuts.
It doesn’t fucking matter how hard he hits himself in the nuts: he’s still going to get 48% of the vote. If you care about shit like this, you’re already not voting for him.
The guy is getting the entire Israeli misinformation and counter intelligence machine working for him non-stop. That’s a pretty big deal.
While you may think he’s hitting himself in the nuts, polling says otherwise. I know, it’s infuriating.
Don’t you guys remember four/six years ago? This was a…depressingly effective tactic to evading responsibility. Because he just…openly admits to shit that other politicians know is poison. But nothing sticks because there are a million other things he does the same thing with. And it’s news for a day or two and then…nothing happens.
Downvoted for the title. Not sure what kind of mouth breather trend that is, but it’s not lasting
Is a fucked up sense of outrage supposed to make you look internet cool? Hey check me out, I’m acting more concerned about something stupid the OP did than I am about the alarming content they just shared, isn’t my personality so edgy?
And announcing your downvote, you’re like the reincarnation of Oscar Wilde over there.
I remember a person on Reddit using this.
þ- th sounding /θ/ (think)
ð- th sounding /ð/ (the)As to why… I hope OP tells us.
I’ve seen them explain it elsewhere. As i recall, they liked the reaction it got, and do it for that.
Competitive autism
They’re still missing the “e” from “ðe”. That’s what bothers me.
I think It was common in middle English to omit the ‘e’, leaving it to context for the reader to infer the meaning. I see this in alot of shorthand and other alphabets like Shavian.
leaving it to context for the reader to infer the meaning
So the same way we differentiate between the two sounds “th” can make?
Because I feel like it
You don’t get it, I find it annoying so you should cater to me. STOP HAVING FUN BECAUSE I FEEL EXCLUDED!!!1!1!1
/s
Bro thinks they’re a homestuck character
Legit only know homestuck is even a þing þrough Undertale and Megalovania
80% of your comment history is bent on those letters. Is that all you want to be known for?
None of us will be “known” for anything on this website. It will all fade. Let them try to be quirky to rage against oblivion, it hardly impacts your life.
In fact, I’m thankful for the stupid trend because I had no idea how to read some of those names in Fire Emblem: Heroes.
Eh, fair.
But English is hard enough without that kind of dickery.
Are ðose letters really so offensive to you ðat ðey warrant being what you define someone else by?
It’s more that it makes your posts hard to read for no reason other than a painfully transparent and desperate cry to be “unique” and “quirky.” That said, you do you, man.
Lovely, that you paint me as “offended by these letters.”
You don’t know me.
Go back to your fucking ð.
B3c4us3 1 f33l l1k3 1t
Same energy tbh
175 7h3 54m3 45 l337 wh3r3 17’5 ju57 4nn0y1n6 f0r n0 r3450n
And it hurts just as many people.
None.
Hurts me, at least
Yes exactly
I support.
Æsþetically it looks dense & unique like ð rare, sunderly dental fricative sounds English makes. “ð” isn’t historic since Old English really didn’t boðer ƿiþ separating voiced vs. unvoiced dental, but ðat’s okay since our broðers up north in Iceland use ðese two characters in ð manner you prescribe. I like ð mirroring a as ð single-character definite vs. indefinite article too. As someone around ESL (English as a second language) speakers, it can help ðem not only knoƿ hƿich sound to make hƿile preventing silly slip-ups like former US president Donald Trump saying Þighland instead of Thailand—but it ƿould be obvious if our ƿritten form ƿasn’t forced to drop þorn for overloading “y” or “th” for ð printing press’ limitations not built for our tongue.
Before computers or printing presses, ƿe didn’t have spellcheck—so folks spelled ƿords as ðey sound. Having less digraphs favoring more single characters is considered more ergonomic; Dvorak, ð keyboard layout, has “ht” on the home row of ð dominant hand to show just how dominant ðis digraph truly is for typing English.
I have no problem reading text that uses these characters, but hƿich and hƿile really bother me.
They are weirder ones for sure since they look like Ps without extra training. But just slapping two Vs or Us together like the Romans is a hack compared to the historic ƿ (from Runic ᚹ).
But even stranger is why on Earth were “hw” flipped by printing press folks after hundreds of years with the h first due to pronunciation… I wouldn’t be surprised if the voiceless labial–velar fricative went out of fashion based the new spelling to where many (maybe most) speakers don’t differentiate between “w” & “wh”.
I was talking about the beginning “h”, not the ƿ. Because there are people who pronounce it like that.
Why do you persist in writing “ð” rather than “ðe” for “the”? And… Do you really say æsþetic and not æstetic? Where are you from to do that?
FWIW, do not support, even as a brother up north. English spelling is broken but there are more glaring problems to fix first.
Why should the indefinite article, “a”, a single character but the definite article, “the”, takes 3 chars? You know those that created our more modern English decided to respell could with -ould just for symmetry with would & should (Old English was cūþe, with our boy thorn for a dental fricative ending)—so it isn’t like words never changed to look nicer. Middle English often wrote the “the” as þͤ. /ðə/ is the normal transcription. “ð” without specially markers seems fine: single char for a very common word while indicating that it is a voiced (non unvoiced) sound (meaning not þ).
Aesthetic comes from Greek αἰσθητικός. θ is an unvoiced dental fricative (also the symbol in IPA) just like our boy þ (descended from the Futhark ᚦ). All transcriptions of English dialects I found show it with the “th” in pronunciation… so if you aren’t using a unvoiced dental fricative, you would be the weird one. 🙃
I would agree that fixing the vowels should be a higher priority. But English does not fit a five vowel system like most Latin languages whose letter were shoehorned onto English. The only way to fix it (ignoring the dialectal splits) would be to either invent an entirely new writing system or going back to the system prior to Latin script adoption since the old system properly encoded English sounds with few diagraphs & many more vowels to work with. In the latter case you would go for the Anglo-Saxon runes brought to the British Isles by the Angles, Saxons, & Jutes. I would support this too tho 😅
Right, so you’re just arbitrarily changing words. That’s very nice.
In recent years tho & thru have been increasingly more common than though & through. Common words tend to do this—the is a top-10 usage word in English. Makes sense.
Look on how you go from Latin ET/et to &. Turns a common word into a single symbol. Or similar a (and an) coming from Old English ān with cognates in Old Frisian, German, Norse, Saxon, and Gothic with forms like “ein” further being reduced.
If there is a historical precendence for this happening, there is no reason to assume the language’s wiriting would not, could not, or should not evolve similarly.
Look, english spelling is already a mess for me to parse (non-native speaker). If y’all start using this other alphabet, I’m just not gonna bother reading.
“Oh no! Anyway” kind of comment, but I must protest somehow.
Ban ñ from Spanish! My language does not have this character!
Non-native speakers tend to mess up dental fricatives in speech as is. This usage is a good reminder as a character for a sound your language doesn’t have… a lot of languages “th” is pronounced as English “t” which implies aspiration like in Thomas. It is just like learning any other non-Romantic language & is literally in Icelandic—not some made-up character.
Yeah, I think this is a pretty shitty way to behave on a website with a large number of non-native English speakers.
I think the real shitty part is the English itself, not letter changes.
We could do the nice thing and make an easier language the standard? Spanish maybe? Could also do German. /s
I vote for a Klingon/Dothraki hybrid for the global language.
Do you think it’s shitty for black people in America to use African American English dialect on public forums where non-native speakers could see it? Same deal, just different levels of familiarity. Nothing is forcing anyone to engage with this post, but a lot of people seem to feel a strong enough desire to enforce social conformity that they go out of their way to complain about someone doing something different.
No. Not same deal. One is dialect with slang, which is readable, and which you can just easily look up if you don’t know.
The other is using letters that even most native English speakers can’t parse.
Also, comparing this person’s nonsense to an ethnic group’s way of speaking is highly offensive. I hope you realize that.
This was a little easier than reading finnegans Wake but not much. Definitely more humorous though. Thank you.
De nada
ᚻᛠᛏᚢᚱᛋ᛫ᚷᛟᚾᚾᚫ᛫ᚻᛠᛏ
Translation: häturs᛫gonna᛫hät
I know what this says because of ultima underworld
Ðey do be like ðat sometimes
It’s not a trend. The way you and drag are speaking is the trend. Phlubbadubba is speaking Old English. You’re right, though, it didn’t last.
The conversation I had with drag before about drag’s reasons for speaking this way shifted my perspective enough that Phlubbadubba’s use of Old English doesn’t bother me the way it probably would have before. I understood drag, but seeing how negatively people are responding to a tiny bit of Old English makes me appreciate drag. Keep it up.
The way Drag speaks is the trend, we are all just following
Just as the classified documents case, this would be grounds to put Trump in military jail, instead of pussyfooting around a corrupt justice system he appointed a large chunk of. DNC being a neocon fundraising organization is pro Trump if he is more pro Israel.
Does the ceasefire involve taking over Gaza and turning it into Israeli settlements? Where would the people be moved this time? It was the last part of Palestine that did not get governed by Israel. Biden caused so much destruction to the Palestinian cause.
