• ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    That ‘quote’ on the title is not even remotely accurate.

    We’re not going to hit the climate goals anyway because we’re not organized to do it — and the way to do it is with the ways that we’re talking about now — and yes, the needs in this area will be a problem. But I’d rather bet on AI solving the problem than constraining it and having the problem if you see my plan.

  • florge@feddit.uk
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    2 months ago

    AI isn’t going to come with a new magic solution to global warming, it’s going to come with the same solutions we already have. Solutions which we should already be doing, but instead we’re listening to these fucks with too much money.

    • Exec@pawb.social
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      2 months ago

      Do you think that they’ll listen to that then? No, they’ll just say that “the models are wrong” and continue to use up even more energy.

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        2 months ago

        It would just end up like in the Love death and robots episode When the Yogurt Took Over. They wouldn’t listen and just do their own thing.

    • paw@feddit.org
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      2 months ago

      Additionally, if AI actually gives us this answer, tge answer we have already now, will we as a global society actualky implement it, because it sounds inconvenient (at least for some) or will we say, hey the AI seems to have made a mistake.

      • egrets@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Schmidt promises that these AI companies will make energy generation systems at least 15% more efficient or maybe even better, telling the audience that “that’s a lot of money for a utility.”

        He’s not even trying to be subtle about it.

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          2 months ago

          I would love to drop these guys into a post scarcity society where their money means jack shit and see how they react.

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            2 months ago

            Can you drop me there first, please?

            I promise to be suitably wowed. Also, I’ll film them for you. Sacrifices for the greater good or whatever.

    • Melt@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      AI will solve it if they give AI the wheel. And I’m sure one of the first thing it’ll do is eliminating all humans

    • jonne@infosec.pub
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      2 months ago

      The only thing we should use AI for is to replace CEOs. AI can spit out inane bullshit at a fraction of the cost of a CEO.

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      2 months ago

      If actual scientists were in charge, and maybe had some ideas that they weren’t certain would work but sounded promising, which could be theoretically tested with AI - there would be hope.
      But none of these fuckers would allow anyone with more than half a brain cell near it, because “investment and growth and blablabla”

      Then again, we could just do that with existing supercomputers and all these power hungry AI crap companies’ resources (I’m sure some supercomputers do get used for the modelling already)…instead of whatever the fuck they’re trying to do now.

    • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Of course it will. Simple: build a bunch of killer robots to exterminate 90% of humanity. Problem solved.

      • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        It’s an advanced AI. Surely it can do an Israel and remotely detonate the smartphones of the people it doesn’t need anymore.

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      2 months ago

      I’ve never seen Eric Schmidt say anything that wasn’t utter idiocy. And he says a lot of things, and is always given a platform to say more, just because he’s rich.

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      2 months ago

      He’s just trying to subvert expectations, why not make things worse when you can’t make things better!

      /s

  • ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    solving global warming is really simple: kill off all human beings.

    i wonder how long ai algorithms will take to figure that out.

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        Except it’s disproportionately killing those producing the least amount of global warming - I’ve yet to hear of a billionaire killed by global warming.

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          2 months ago

          And it’s also killing the rest of the biosphere in the process. Which wasn’t doing so great to begin with.

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      2 months ago

      You could do it in order of CO2 footprint, which pretty much tracks wealth. I bet if you just killed off the top 1% you’d make a huge dent.

  • Thoralf Will@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 months ago

    The climate goals are meetable.

    If we want to.

    Unless AI forces us to do stuff that we know for decades to be necessary, nothing will change, except a massive amount of additional energy that we need to power the AI.

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    2 months ago

    The problem is a confluence of flaws related to capitalism and psychology that allows guys like these to be as they are, gives them ample opportunity to speak, and compels others to listen.

    Eric Schmidt and people like him have so much money and influence that they’re presented the opportunity to sit down with policy makers and use media as a megaphone to the point that his voice alone is louder than tens of millions of dissenters and the collective group is able to speak over the entire scientific community.

    We’ve normalized it to the point that he can pitch an idea that is as existentially catastrophic as this, and the article writer spins it as some profound statement worthy of deeper discussion.

    The CEO of Starbucks attempted to justify flying across state in a jet in order to commute to work, and a lot of people either accept it as some sort of tenet of capitalism or attempt to play the devil’s advocate as to why something like that would be deemed necessary by a person. And while he’s doing that, he’s not univerally lambasted for it, policy doesn’t change to prohibit that, and we just squabble amongst ourselves about the merits or necessity.

    But as long as guys like these continue to receive money, they and their lobbyists will be chanting the same mantra

  • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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    Former Google CEO’s won’t ever be immortal, so we might as well drop them off somewhere in the ocean and let them swim back. That should give them enough alone-time to figure out how to become immortal.

    • Alphane Moon@lemmy.worldOP
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      2 months ago

      You don’t even need to go that far.

      Just need real courts (based on principles of justice and sober interpretation of corruption and criminality) and proper incentives; full asset seizure and mandatory community service (decade minimum) working as a junior janitor at an Alzheimer patient facility, with restricted access to smartphones/computers and mobility restriction to the immediate area around the facility. You could even get minimum wage while taking part in your community service program.

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    I have a better idea. Let’s drop climate conservation, use a load of fossil fuels to fire him in a rocket directly into the sun! Then, resume climate conservation.

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    He just wants to run his AI datacenters gold mines, climate be damned. And looks like he himself sees AI as some kind of magic bullet, typical exec syndrome.

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      “I don’t wanna stop exploiting, so let’s just carry on. Maybe the magic machine will fix the problem somehow, who knows? Or maybe it won’t. I don’t really give a fuck as long as I get more money. But you guys are probably dumb enough to believe in the magic machine, seeing as how you’re poor, so I don’t really even need to try to disguise my bullshit.”

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    2 months ago

    AI is not going to come op with a solution and he knows it.

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      This guy… he’s untouchably wealthy and people bow to him like a god everywhere he goes now. I think this really twists a person’s brain - at the very least it puts him out of touch. He probably has almost no idea what he’s talking about anymore.

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      2 months ago

      Especially since the solutions are already here, but rich people just don’t like them since it implies the loss of their power

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        “Alright, let’s turn on the AI Mega-Thinker 3000 TM and see what it says about solving climate change.”

        INVEST IN RENEWABLE ENERGY AND OVERTHROW THE BILLIONAIRE CLASS
        

        “…well that can’t be right.”

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      AGI: bZzt my calculations say you should stop consuming as much energy and move onto green energy generation

      Rich people: no, not like that

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        2 months ago

        I keep meaning to do the scroll of truth meme but it’s him and the scroll is AI and it says “stop burning fossil fuels”

        Nyyeegghh!

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      AI: “Have you tried funding public transport and regulating the carbon industry?”

      Ok, now we need to make a new AI so that AI can solve global warming but without using an existing solution that might marginally inconvenience the mega rich.

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    When these weirdos get older they always stop giving a shit about anyone but themselves or more to the point they stop pretending they ever cared for anyone else.