Milton rapidly intensified to a Category 5 hurricane late Monday morning.
Within hours, Milton strengthened to a Category 2, then a Category 3, then a Category 4 and finally a Category 5.
Milton now ranks as the third-greatest 24-hour wind speed intensification for a hurricane in the Atlantic Basin. (Records are based on data since the satellite era began in the 1960s.)
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Florida gonna look like Fallout4 post Hurricane Milton and Hurricane season ain’t even over…
Longer article if you want more info: https://apnews.com/article/hurricane-milton-helene-florida-557c5c512135e0a8661b298e45e17c92
This graphic from The Weather Channel is terrifying.
Most tsunamis are less than 10 feet high
https://www.weather.gov/safety/tsunami-about
Cities can’t be protected from this long-term.
Florida’s elevation
That image is in meters, so it’s bad, but not quite as bad at first glance.
That’s pretty bad… How is it so flat??
So hurricanes can pass across without losing too much energy.
It is all in the design.
I wasnt trying to deceive, but everything in pink and blue is gonna get fucked.
Excuse me, is that feet???
Terrifyingly, yes it is.
The key says elevation is in meters, so it’s about 3 times less terrifying.
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Could be worse… at least it’s not in Meters.
Yet.
It is in meters and since that an elevation map of Florida, that is the better scenario.
Basically all the areas in purple and dark blue are low enough for the storm surge to flood them. If it was feet, then the blue-green will probably be underwater as well.
The question about ft came right below the elevation map, but it was a top-level comment on the OP and not a sub-comment about the elevation map.
Seems you were confused about this order of comments too but unfortunately you’ve taken downvotes for it.
Some “Day After Tomorrow” kinda shit right there
SWEET! Surfs up!
To soon?
No. There’s always a bunch of surfers that go out for hurricane waves. I assume some have a death wish.
Ok, Bodie.
Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven wrote a book called Lucifer’s Hammer about a comet hitting the Earth. There’s a part where all the surfers in the ocean off of L.A. know they’re going to die, so they decide to ride the tsunami and get taken out one by one as they get smashed into buildings.
One pancake to go!
I think I heard about the book you were talking about
That would make for a great scene in a disaster movie.
Honestly, the whole book would make a great miniseries. Probably too much for just one movie.
Too bad Larry Niven is and Jerry Pournelle was such right-wing assholes, because their published some great stuff.
Unfortunately, at least from videos I’ve seen of the Indian Ocean tsunami and the Fukushima tsunami, tsunamis don’t really “break” like good surfing waves and instead seem to act more like a large swell that keeps going instead of ebbing.
(A mega-tsunami from a comet impact might be so large it would act differently, though.)
I’ll be honest, it’s one of the least believable parts of a book which overall reads as quite plausible, but it’s a fun chapter. Neither of the authors are/were scientists, so they were bound to get some things wrong. It was also written almost 50 years ago, so I’m guessing the science they did work with has been supplanted in a lot of ways since then.
You’re surfing all the way to sooner island from Florida‽
Where is sooner island?
Oklahoma, duh.
Just never heard of it called sooner island
before later island
Holy fuck people. It says right in the image that it’s in meters.
So not only lemmings can’t read, a comment asking for info staring you in the face has 55 upvotes… and the wrong answer has 38.
snekerpimp was responding to FlyingSquid, not baldingpudenda.
Well, that’s egg on my face. Thanks for the correction.
If it makes you feel better, it seems like you’re not the only one who missed the thread indent 🤷♂️
Indents are hard to do well. Maybe impossible? Should be effortless to read but seems to never happen. Maybe just one of those things.
I had to do a double take on that.
Oh shit, those numbers are feet, not inches. That took me a moment. Fuuuuuck.
For those across the pond, 3658mm of rain (12’)
Really sets it in seeing it in mm
Edit: See below comment, I completely misinterpreted the storm surge meaning
No that is storm surge.
So it’s the hurricane pushes that much water onto the shore through force and can get that high of water above sea level.So more akin to a slow tsunami where a hurricane pushes up to 3.6M of water up onto the land then it rains more on top of that. Storm surge is mostly the reason for the houses on pillars too.
I’m surprised DeSantis hasn’t required that the storm surge be listed in meters to make it appear smaller and less of an issue.
Meters are communist. He’s dumb enough to require it be listed in leagues.
Use decameters to make the number smaller and less people will understand or care.
Headed straight for L Ron Hubbard.
If only we could have foreseen this somehow
Agreed. Maybe we can measure the temperature globally and compare it to past readings. Nevermind, that would be crazy.
That sounds like socialism!
He’s coming for his red stapler. You stole it. Now it is time for revenge.
Milton could put strychnine in the guacamole.
How about boosting the funding for FEMA? Another cluster fuck in the making thanks to the GOP.
Why? If people die because they don’t fund fema and Florida governor don’t take calls from Harris, then they blame it in Biden’s America. The immigrants took all the funding for hurricanes, remember?
Ugh, I hate so many things right now.
To be honest this Guarantees Florida goes Red this round when it was getting close to turning back to purple. Tampa and Orlando both vote Blue, and many people will get displaced. Mail will be lost, voting locations will be destroyed, and you can’t just show up to any polling place to vote. “Oh you moved across the state because your house is flooded, well you can vote 350 miles from where you are now, or you can vote by mail, we sent it to your mailbox that doesn’t exist anymore”
That is so incredibly fuuuuuuucked
Yarp, remember Florida took to long in 2000 to get the votes counted when Florida’s supreme Court was turned down by the U.S. supreme Court to allow time to do one final recount as things were off.
They awarded all 25 Florida electorial votes to George Bush, and Gore stepped down to allow it to be a civil process.
If it takes to long to count Desantis only needs one round of Votes to show they were ahead, and stall on placing electors using his election police he created at his side to help the U.S. supreme Court double down on their original ruling 24 years ago
https://www.britannica.com/event/Bush-v-Gore
The count showed Gore won the Vote, would have won the election. Without it, we may have never invaded Iraq.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gore-comes-out-swinging-on-iraq/
Since then, Florida has outgrown New York, going from 25 electoral votes to 30. The effects of Florida going 1 way or another is huge
Bullshit. Go read the FEMA website about the their funding, especially how the disaster relief and immigrant funding is completely separated. Furthermore, the $750.00 is a Serious Needs Assistance that helps people to buy food, baby formula and the basics.
…no shit.
Even though Tanya Marunchak’s Belleair Beach home was flooded with more than 4 feet (1.2 meters) of water from Helene, she and her husband were unsure Monday morning if they should evacuate. She wanted to leave, but her husband thought their three-story home was sturdy enough to withstand Milton.
That poor woman. If her husband thinks he’s safe in their “sturdy” home, she should leave him behind.
Time to break out the Sharpie and fix this, Donald!
Cat 5 don’t fuck around.
Good luck Florida.
So is trump at Mar a Lego right now standing proudly on the front lawn for this? Is he staying there, “standing his ground” against the “climate hoax”?
Or is he hiding somewhere else safe, with an excuse, like a coward who’s actually afraid of climate change?
'Just turn the green energy wind turbines around and blow the hurricane away, or just shoot at it! ’
Trump: “Just nuke it!”
Well that’s on the East Coast so. Not really a big deal. But I know that’s not your point
Inshallah it will be a big deal on the East coast
Climate change is the biggest existential threat we face. One fan be afraid of hurricanes and also be dumb enough to not believe in climate change.
These are two equally obvious statements. The latter probably even more so.
There’s no need to try and out stupid them.
Good thing DeSantis won’t pick up the phone from Biden or Harris to start funding relief.
Relief this morning when looking at the current track. At least I won’t get the core. For now.
Good thing they removed climate change from being a thing discussed in the legislature. That should fix things.
They forgot to make a law against it!
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SCOTUS should declare climate change unconstitutional.
Where’s the magic sharpie when you need it?
Anyone got a nuke? I have an idea.
I guess nuking Florida before the hurricane gets there would reduce the damage inflicted by the hurricane.
They are manipulating the weather! It would be clear as day if there wouldn’t be one hurricane after another.
At least the insurance companies will only have to rebuild some houses once after 2 hurricanes
Insurance companies don’t build shit. They just collect money from people, and sometimes give some of it back.
Begrudgingly cover*
unless they can find a way to screw you over for profit, then they absolutely will no matter how ridiculous the “reasoning”*
I believe it was Katrina where the insurance said it was wind damage when you only had flood insurance, but if you’re neighbor only had wind coverage they’d tell them it was water damage.
Right storm. Wrong details.
They (insurance companies) were claiming it as flood/surge damage, even if wind ripped off your roof to let the water inside. Wind was covered, water wasn’t. Companies were sued for trying to blanket deny an area based on one generic engineering report, or denying coverage if flood waters came through after wind destroyed a place. Insurance com0anies don’t typically offer flood insurance to a lot of places and if homeowners want it, they have to buy it through the federal government.
They’re actually required to give 85% of everything back, so they give back most of it. It seems like Florida is becoming too much of a hassle to insure, though. Some companies have pulled out of florida.
Does that 85% include their costs or is that the full amount returned to policy holders?
Full amount that is legally required to pay back out in insurer coverage every year. The other 15% covers pay roll, rent, buildings, bonus’, overhead, etc. Literally everything else. Same deal for medical insurance.
Everyone in FL should have pulled out.
This joke works on multiple levels and I’m happy about that.
Holy shit a triple entendre!
Many insurance companies won’t even insure homes in much of Florida.
And the rest are probably planning to.
What insurance companies? They all backed out of Florida years ago. Now it’s state funded home insurance footing the bill.
I read a thing recently that insurance companies are getting increasingly skittish all over the country, even places that wouldn’t traditionally be considered risky, because yay, climate change.
The interesting thing about it was that insurance companies’ insurance is increasingly the thing that’s causing issues, because it’s getting harder for the risk to be spread out. That is to say that insurance companies financially rely on areas with low rates of natural disasters because they end up being a net positive due to insurance premiums and no need for payout. Fewer of these “safe” areas mean the insurance companies struggle to stay solvent and have to rely on their own insurance policies to have their back, but those meta-insurance companies have apparently been historically loud about climate change — probably because besides the government, they’re the ones who have to pony up
Here in Missouri, home owners insurance is starting to lose hail damage from coverage. Damn near 90% of the houses around my area have now replaced their roofs, and have the roofing signage out front. It’s almost a running joke now: guessing which house will be next to get one, and counting the company’s signs to see who’s making a killing.
No problem. The 0ld coots in Florida that vote won’t be around when the bill comes due.
If people don’t have the common sense to not build houses in places that are guaranteed to be destroyed by a natural disaster sooner than later, then I shouldn’t have to subsidize their rebuilding costs through my insurance premiums.
Yeah, used to be that insurance costs were almost directly skewed based on risk. But then people were upset that it costed so much to insure some places(the ones that should be prohibitively expensive to insure). And then slowly over time they baked in little increases in price everywhere else to subsidise huge price cuts in those areas to out-compete the companies that put the onus entirely on the people taking risks. Eventually, as it became more and more widespread to do that, it became financially more viable to spread it out rather than have drastically more expensive areas. And now we all have to partially cover people who are taking way more risk than we would.
That’s communism in a nut shell, Republicans should be up in arms over it
That or build something that can stand up to being hit. Tall order, but the inner armchair engineer in me thinks it’s like, totally possible.
I think you forget, building it stronger once would cost 50% more upfront. Better to build it twice, or three times at only 100% cost each time. That way you can be the lowest bidder every time.
That’s what the people in the North Carolina mountains thought.
That seems like a perfectly reasonable place to build that’s not obviously at threat from hurricanes. But sometimes shit happens that couldn’t be easily foreseen, and THAT’S what insurance is for.
My point, however, is that insurance is NOT to make other policy holders foot the expense of someone repeatedly repairing/rebuilding after completely foreseeable/inevitable events.
To anyone that insists on having a house right on the beach on the Gulf Coast, I say, “Insure thy self.”
If your policy covers wind they claim the damage is from water. If your policy covers water, they claim the damage is from wind. If your policy covers both, they claim a hurricane is exempt as an act of god.
I want to bitch about insurance companies but insurance is for something that is unavoidable.
All this shit is becoming more and more avoidable.
Which, to be fair, is really about all they can do. You CANNOT stop a hurricane from obliterating a house. There is NOTHING the average American can do about it except leave and hope it survives.
Then its dishonest to accept money for your fake business.
they are not real businesses in the insurance sense. its all federal money for flood insurance. they’re just servicers kinda like mortgage originators.
That sounds like capitalistic socialism to me. I dont even understand the notion of what you said there.
this goes into it a bit and is a good listen in general. https://overcast.fm/+AAyIOzvst0E
