• Remmy@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    I think this is the year. One of my long time Windows friends has recently decided to install Manjaro GNU/Linux after being fed up with forced reboots, updates that seem to overwrite settings, and constant bluescreens of death.

  • Mwa@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Atleast windows 10 still gets security updates for 1.3 years

  • dovah@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Last week, I installed Debian on a 20 year old 32-bit IBM Thinkpad and it’s going strong.

    • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 months ago

      Fixed it for you:

      Company renders 60%+ of computers running current software incapable of running new software due to niche hardware requirement, abruptly ends support for current version next year, and tells users to throw away their computers and buy new ones.

      Oh, and they’re promoting their cloud storage option. Which may or may not have anything to do with their data harvesting? I don’t really know on that one.

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        “Abrupt” and “current” are pretty generous for windows 10 tbh. This has been a known deadline for several years at this point, and windows 11 has been out since 2021.

        Absolutely fuck microsoft with a cactus, but this is hardly new or surprising at this point.

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          By “abrupt,” I mean that Windows 7 ended service updates just last year, and Windows 10 will end next year. And by “current,” I mean that Windows 11 overtook 7 as the second most used version of Windows in 2022.

          We’ve known that they’re ending support for 10 next year for a few years, but that end of life timeline is very short compared to previous versions of Windows. If 10 had the same end of life timeline as 7, we’d be seeing service updates for 10 ending in 2030. And 11 may be the newest version of Windows, but it is by all means not the most used version and is most likely not the version currently being used by most people that this article is relevant to.

    • willya@lemmyf.uk
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      2 months ago

      Not here on Lemmy where you should be able to run it on a tamagotchi for free.

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    2 months ago

    Boo hoo, I need a TPM, recent SIMD instructions, and DirectX12 support to be able to boot. Please help!

    Boo hoo! 🎻

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    Again: install Linux. Yes, there are a few edge cases left where you’re screwed and must rely on Microsoft (and even there, most of yhose can run in a VirtualBox environment) but most work you can get done under Linux. Why suffer I der Microsoft bullshit?

  • FireWire400@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Devices running an unsupported version of Windows will still function, but Microsoft doesn’t provide the following: Technical support of any issue

    Oh, you mean the support forums? I don’t think those have ever helped anyone

    • Hello Hotel@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      when microsoft feels threatened by the recycling community being noticed, they add more technical constraints. Chromebooks are the gold standard for an intentionally non recyclable machine, neck and neck with apple.

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        The bullshit of chromeOS to be capable of running on the shittiest hardware but having an artificial lifetime for devices is stupid. To google’s credit, they did increase that limit to 10 years, but that was only recently.

      • Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee
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        Yes, and they’re encouraging people to throw it out. At least some users think to sell on the secondary market, but third party buyers can only get so much out of EOL Windows machines and there are only so many linux users with an interest in buying up old hardware.

        I myself have a couple of used laptops, but don’t need any more hardware for a while, so it’s not like I’m able to buy up any. I fear much of it will rot in a landfill.

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    2 months ago

    I once ran the windows Troubleshooter to get an old scanner working, and the final page told me to but a new scanner!

    I plugged it in to a mini PC I use as a backup server and the scanner worked fine with Linux.

    And another recommendation issue: I noticed that my Windows laptop has a “reduce your carbon footprint” settings section that tells me to reduce power settings, screen brightness etc. but it’s completely lacking a “stop giving me AI search results in Bing” section.

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      2 months ago

      Are you saying you use Bing for searches? If you don’t want that then why not use a different search?

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      Switching from Windows to Linux on my Framework laptop makes my battery last 2-3 times as long. They should just have a switch to Linux recommendation to reduce your carbon footprint.

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        Are you using a framework 13? While I find the battery life to be usable, if it’s that much worse on Windows I’m not sure I would have gotten a framework if I used windows lol.

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          Yeah. 11th gen Framework 13, so one of the first ones. Since I got it I had to use Windows exclusively because of some client work, and battery life was pitiful. 2-3 hours perhaps? Once that project finished I swapped out the SSD and put on Ubuntu with KDE. I was expecting the batter life to be worse, but it is demonstrably better. I now get more like 6 hours, albeit with my power plan on efficiency.

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            I have one of the newer AMD models and I find it has about 2-3 hours of batter life, though it spends most of it’s time suspended for my use case. I use Fedora and have the “balanced” profile selected. I don’t mind the poor battery life since the processor is leaps and bounds better than the 6th gen 2 core Intel I was using before.

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      2 months ago

      Win11 also says that showing seconds in the taskbar “reduces battery life”/“increases power consumption”

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        My god. It really does!

        Oh no! I left notepad.exe open. That cursor was flashing on and off for hours! I’m sorry everyone!

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        The only time that would make a difference is if you’re staring at a blank page and the only thing causing the screen to update is the clock. Theoretically the GPU could go completely to sleep, except for having to draw the updated clock every second.

        But there’s a reason battery life is commonly measured as “hours of video playback”. If the laptop’s not actually doing anything you may as well turn it off and get weeks of battery life.

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        While it sounds ridiculous, there is a reasoning for this even nowadays:

        Any periodic activity with a rate faster than one minute incurs the scrutiny of the Windows performance team, because periodic activity prevents the CPU from entering a low-power state. Updating the seconds in the taskbar clock is not essential to the user interface, unlike telling the user where their typing is going to go, or making sure a video plays smoothly. And the recommendation is that inessential periodic timers have a minimum period of one minute, and they should enable timer coalescing to minimize system wake-ups.

        Found 1 test that seems to confirm battery life is slightly worse (2%) with seconds enabled. But this is true only when nothing is going on on screen. If you would actually work on PC, I imagine difference would be practically nonexistent.

        All that said, I use seconds on my private and work PC. Was pissed when MS initially removed this as an option.

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    My PC met everything except processor. Did a registry hack and updated anyway. All is well, for now. I don’t feel like building another PC at the moment.

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      Don’t TPMs just deal with cryptography code the same way a SIM card does for a phone? If you have one, What’s wrong with using it?

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        Platforms like Windows and Chrome can also use it for remote attestation, i.e., verifying you haven’t bypassed security controls and locking you out if they think you have.

        I keep mine enabled because it’s good for secure boot and secrets handling.

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      Linux sounds good but I never see it discussed on this website. How am I suppose to use Arch if nobody else does?

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        Ppl that still use Windows even after all this shit has been rammed down their throats will not have a good time on Linux. You still need to be able to do basic trouble shooting. I installed win 11 a few months back and it took me three tries on installation to get all the garbage out of it.

        I think the best bet is an entirely new system from the ground up that has an open architecture that every company can equally implement that from the ground up and is as simple as possible. Like the computers we had in the 80s, but with better graphics. You want to play a game, you boot into it and it’s the only thing running. No anti cheat needed.

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          I think the best bet is an entirely new system from the ground up that has an open architecture that every company can equally implement that from the ground up and is as simple as possible.

          This keeps getting said by people who don’t understand operating systems. Even if you build something from the ground up, you still end up with an operating system very much like Linux and Windows. The choices that were made for each OS were not random. The principles of I/O, user input, graphics display, filesystems, etc, are more or less universal concepts across all OSes.

          What you will accomplish is making an OS that no one will use. Linux, Windows, and macOS already fill every market that can be filled. Microsoft tried to become a third player in the mobile market and their product died pretty quickly.

          Google has been trying to build Fuschia into a new OS and they’ve asked back their ambitions (from what I recall reading).

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          Yeah no thanks, a PC that can only run one program at a time? that’s just a console but worse lol. almost entirely useless as a computer.

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          Rejoice. I’ve installed Arch on my home PC a few days ago. Haven’t booted Windows since.

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          You’re on the wrong part of the Internet for that. Try Facebook or Instagram to learn more about Arch Linux.

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      … And FreeBSD! Hardware support is rather fine except for wifi, and that can be set up using wifibox packages (technically it’s running a lean Linux VM with wi-fi passthrough, but by today’s measure the footprint is negligible).

      So clean, orderly and patient.

      I can’t use facts and logic on what is optimized for what, but it feels more responsive than Linux too, with the same desktop setup. I guess Linux with a different scheduler would solve that.