This is equivalent to "well I didn’t wear my seatbelt and I still lived.
Trends are trends.
Great way to split a party that just found renewed unity, get on my blocklist and stay there forever.
I was saying that before he dropped, I was wrong, you were right. Brilliant even. This has been not only the right move, but a huge shot in the arm for voter turnout and engagement. We would have lost this if everyone listened to me. I’ll be more open minded going forward. Thank you.
Reminder that anything that currently makes you feel happy and content in saving american democracy is likely a conservative psy-op designed to keep you home on voting day.
Remain scared citizen, remain frantic until after voting day. Feel free to relax afterwards.
Jokes on you, everyone still hates me because I wanted a primary because I knew Harris would ignore my base requirement of preventing genocide.
Also because she’s still pretty suboptimal compared to other candidates imo.
i agree with you on paragraph 1, ngl
2nd par depends on what metrics “optimal” describes, but generally, sure :)
She’s hasn’t won yet.
Kamala Harris hasn’t won, no. But I think she’s already achieved enough momentum that if she loses, it will be safe to say that Joe Biden would have also lost.
That’s a reasonable assumption, but just because it’s reasonable doesn’t mean it’s true.
I mean, literally all of the common reasons to not vote for Biden are gone.
I was wrong, and I’m sorry. Are we good now?
yeah have a good one :)
No, you haven’t apologized for last Sunday. We know what you did.
I was definitely in the camp of “Biden shouldn’t drop out” not because I wanted Biden to be President, but mostly because the people who wanted him to drop out just kinda hand waved away what happened after he dropped out.
They tossed about a few names that they favored and Harris wasn’t really on that list. People gave her a pass or offered some soft criticism, but she wasn’t on people’s short list.
While I’m very glad that Harris has really shone, I think that surprised a lot of people, there was still the opportunity for the DNC to fuck everything up and put together a ticket that would have been underwhelming. Luckily that didn’t happen.
I think this is an incredibly lucky “I told ya so”, the gamble worked out, but IMO it could have gone the other way far too easily.
wish i got this well thought out and measured of a response 4 months ago. instead it was me getting called. “russian bot” “useful idiot” “MAGA troll” 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ me being “lucky” or not, did not justify that level of toxicity. thanks for this post tho
Yeah, this is the correct take here. Trying to pretend that this was the plan all along is disingenuous. There was no plan other than ‘Biden bad’.
The fact that Kamala Harris has clutched momentum and has good odds came out of literally nowhere, as did Harris herself.
It also can’t be ignored that the ‘Biden bad’ message was being pushed hard artificially by billionaires and Russia, which didn’t exactly fill a lot of Democrats with hope that it was a realistic option.
We lucked out.
we did not luck out and the plan was not “biden bad.”
the plan was “biden is increasingly showing age and is actively losing an election that should be easy to win. polling shows that any other generic nominee does better than joseph robinette biden, so the logical next step is to replace him with his vice president.”
the trouble is we said that, and you didn’t listen. i was actively scoffed at and called a nazi for saying the above. poll data that showed proof of the above was downvoted and called manipulation. even when the donors started stepping down, it was still called fraudulent and irrelevant. i never hand waved someone asking me who replaces biden, and i always responded harris especially as the time got later. and again i was downvoted and scoffed at for that.
this was not luck, and you should start actively listening to people you disagree with more because you display some saddening signs of intentional ignorance here.
Thank you. I was in the same boat. Did I want Biden President again? Not really. But there were no alternatives at the time and I thought that Harris wasn’t exactly getting the recognition when people wanted to just drop Biden.
I’m glad I’m wrong about staying with Biden. I’m happier that Harris has taken up the mantle. I just hope that it’s enough to drive turnout.
You want an apology from having internet discussions relating to uncharted political waters? Why?
I apologize. I was still, am still, very discomforted at the stakes riding on this election, and what it’ll mean to future female candidates if both female nominations get trump presidential terms.
But I always look ahead with hope
<3
I actually had someone go back to one of my comment chains explaining that we needed to push Biden to drop and apologize for their negativity and hostility towards the notion.
I think that is an absolute rarity of self awareness from anyone and I’ll take the win of knowing there is at least 1 person out there that walked away with a change positive mindset.
…Wish it was more… But taking the win.
wait i love this actually
Anyone who said Biden should drop was right as fuck. I was doubtful that it would work out for Kamala due to how racist people can be but it’s going so well so far.
I was doubtful because it seemed like he wouldn’t drop out so intense opposition immediately after the primaries seemed like dooming us to 4 more years of trump. He did, it was a risky gamble and just because it worked out doesn’t mean I don’t stand by my thought processes and my absolute dread.
Yeah, I was in the “Biden should drop, but I am gonna vote for him if he doesn’t, because I don’t have a better choice” camp.
I’ll take the L.
I legitimately thought there’d be no way for them to be able to campaign enough in just a few months and I’ll gladly admit I was wrong.
From an external viewpoint, how the fuck can it cost so much to run one campaign. Even in the uk, we are legally capped at 19 million pounds.
Because our country is ran by oligarchs. Money is god here and if you don’t worship the almighty dollar you’re probably gonna have a bad time.
Well so is ours
Take a look at your police force and healthcare and say that again.
At least your oligarchs have some empathy. Over here they’ll kill you for $5.
Well they just refuse to invest. Take the examples you gave:
- We have healthcare, but there is a hospital in which obese patients cannot go on one of the floors because it will collapse.
- The police are well meaning but we cannot fit criminals in prison and have to release them early.
Some of your oligarchs were taught what happens when the serfs revolt, and don’t want beheading to become the national past time again
true. Doesn’t excuse the fact that some families have estates literally traceable over 900 years back. And any protest we muster wil be stopped by the rain nowdays.
sorry for the L, but i think we’re both glad you’re taking it :)
Yeah, I also was very vocal about this. The democrats that attacked this idea were fucking mean about it.
Absolutely grossly cruel about their disdain to anyone disagreeing and now just fully onboard without so much as a glance back at the wake of abuse left.
Honestly the Democrats can be exactly the same kind of bullies for like minded party thinking as the Republicans its just their shit apparently doesn’t stink quite as much to have to take notice of it.
right like if you weren’t mean about it, no need to apologize. but there was so much shit being thrown around it was quite sad actually
Pinging varyk
I hope we can at least agree this was a good move and we’re in a much better position now to beat Trump
No lol
childish and BORRINGGGG
