The eyes have it: Men do see things differently to women
The way that the visual centers of men and women’s brains works is different, finds new research published in BioMed Central’s open access journal Biology of Sex Differences. Men have greater sensitivity to fine detail and rapidly moving stimuli, but women are better at discriminating between colors.
I’ve seen multiple people suggest hunting and get correctly told thats inaccurate
But would war fighting, or just fighting in general what with our aggression n shit help explain it?
The only times I’ve noticed this discrepancy in life are when hunting with women of playing competitive FPS games with my wife watching. I’ll regularly see and react to things they don’t, and are shocked when I shoot the sniper out of the tree on the other side of the map because yes, I did see him and I’m not crazy when I say I see shit flicker gdi
Aliasing also bothers me more than any woman I know, and everyone I know who hates it as much as me is a man
hunting is just an extension of fighting, sooo…
realistically, i think it’s probably a little more fundamental than hunting or something, and more to do with the fact that men are generally more muscular, stronger, taller, and probably faster as well. So it’s probably just a general evolutionary advantage to benefit those capabilities. For things like hunting, etc.
Could be as simple as humans get so many neurons and need to allocate them across total set of stuff needed for life.
Women need to devote a good % of those to pregnancy mode, while men just have normal mode.
Therefore some functions may have to deal with reduced neuron allocations, because the ‘missing’ ones are required elsewhere.
Obviously a simplification of things, but with only one way of needing to be men optimize to a different configuration with a different allocation of neurons to match.
Could be as simple as humans get so many neurons and need to allocate them across total set of stuff needed for life.
this is definitely the simplest, and probably most likely, though possibly not super accurate answer.
hunting is just an extension of fighting, sooo…
I am not trying to nitpick you here but I actually think this is a really important assumption to examine precisely because it is a very popular association (forming an unquestionable triangle of “hunting” “war” and “masculinity”) that we treat as unquestionable common sense.
From my very limited experience with hunting it is nothing like fighting? The entire mindset, physical approach and experience of hunting is almost the polar opposite to fighting other humans, I think one of the only really compelling similarities between “hunting” and “fighting” is that they both involve violence, but the mindset of a fighter is one where the focus is ON fighting where the mindset of a hunter is on the wholistic process of hunting, killing and processing an animal so nothing is wasted and so the landscape from which the hunter takes is not irrevocably harmed.
The kinds of things that occupy the mind of a hunter are maybe much closer to a polar opposite to most of the mindset and pyschology of fighting and war than we assume superficially. Hunting is a participation in an ecosystem which requires a nuanced deep view based in empathy and practiced understanding, fighting is just about hurting people and being more violent than the other person. It isnt about understanding and sustainably harvesting, it is about eliminating another.
Just because they both involve weapons doesnt actually mean they have much if anything in common in my opinion.
Maybe, and I’m not a biologist or an expert on evolution, so take my uninformed opinion with a big ol’ chunk of salt, but I feel like what you’re describing is more cultural than biological. Like, generally women just play video games (at least online competitive ones where there’s interaction between players, like the ones you’re describing) less than men, because those kinds of video games are sort of a hellhole for women. So in general, their eyes probably aren’t attuned to things like aliasing and digital sniper glints because that’s not something they experience often, not necessarily because their brains aren’t as well equipped to recognize those things.
I wonder if that correlates with hallucinations or seizures.
Men have greater sensitivity to fine detail and rapidly moving stimuli
Looks at every first person shooter demographic
So is the power of transness allowing me to obliterate eggs in Shell Shockers?
Does this mean the visual center is 25% larger or that the configuration of cells is different? If it is larger where are are women’s brains larger then men’s brains?
It means there are 25% more, but neurons aren’t the only thing the brain is made of. Idk how much of a size difference, if any, this makes. Considering how sensitive lips and fingers are compared to equal sized parts of your skin in other areas, there might be a similar situation of just having a lot of space in the total structure for extra neurons. It could be a small increase in size, it could have no impact on size, more studies required.
At the very least it makes a good exercise in questioning facts to make sure you are not coming to faulty conclusions by misunderstanding.
I dont think we need to tread so lightly around this topic, since we already know that brain mass does not directly tie to intelligence from the simple fact that women have smaller brains on average but are not less mentally capable than men.
Nobody arguing or even just reading this in good faith would try to frame this as women being mentally inferior.
I’m curious about this. They say that it’s related to in utero exposure to androgens, which means it’s probably not as clear cut as XX vs XY, because intersex folk and folk with atypical hormonal exposure (such as fraternal twins of different sexes, with a shared placenta) experience different levels of exposure, and different reactions to that exposure.
But most things human are regulated by hormones, because of genes.
Yes, absolutely. But as I said, it’s probably not as clear cut as whether you’re XX or XY, because there are other factors that can also impact hormone levels and sensitivity to hormones
and yet I still miss things right in front of my face
They are not rapidly moving… no wonder you miss them
Still can’t find your damned socks though
Men’s vision is movement based, just like T-rex.
Socks don’t move of their own accord.
Then how do they disappear from the dryer?
Idk how they go missing, but we do know where they go.
You are a person of quality.
I need to see your clearance from at least one of three or four three letter agencies before I can tell you the real answer.
Gnomes.
They become Tupperware lids
Ew…take it from experience. Never use a mans sock as a tupperware lid. Even if it’s “clean”.
Because socks don’t move.
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No, it’s because women are smart enough to look under shit and we men are not. 90% of the time I ask my partner if she knows where something is, she asks if I looked under x, and about half the time it is, in fact, under x.
But I did look under x, multiple times! I just didn’t see it. So much for greater sensitivity to fine detail!
So what i’m hearing is that i should attach all items my husband regulalrly loses track of to a moving object to play into his sight strengths. Basket on the ceiling fan it is
Super helpful, thx!
Wait a minute, you’re not my husband!
I mean, wouldn’t that be similar to leaves moving in wind though?
Like tears… in rain.
Goddamend nature and all these bugs disguised as features!
But they still can’t see why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch…
'Cause it’s absolutely loaded with sugar?
And toast, and crunch!
All for boob prrocessing
Speak for yourself I’m too busy looking at ass.
Man ass, woman ass, gay ass, straight ass. Idgaf.
Lemme see them cheeks.
it was more about the word in the background
Didn’t even notice at first. Too busy looking at ass.
Hmm… Men are more excited through visuals while women are more excited by touch.
I’m not actually sure if you are joking.
What about trans men?
Their bed nucleus of the stria terminalis should be twice as large as a woman’s, and that’s what guided their gender identities. Not that I’m a biological determinist, just a strict physicalist with no belief in metaphysical choice superceding determinism, but a lot of times the brain’s development has recursive feedback loops such that smaller choices early on can alter the size of brain structures along with sex hormones and the development environment in the womb or even outside of it for a while, the earlier the more significant. All I know is that the size of the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis is pretty consistently twice the size in men as it is in women regardless of the gender assigned at birth.
Hormones are weird and wonderful things
Trans men are assigned female at birth, FYI.
That was even more useless than this comment.
Yep, my point being that a trans man (AFAB) and a cis man (AMAB) both have their bed nucleus of the stria terminalis roughly the same size, twice the size of a woman’s. A woman’s is half the size of a man’s, regardless of whether she’s trans (AMAB) or cis (AFAB). So regardless of what the gender is assigned at birth, the relative size of the bed nucleus predicts the gender that the individual feels most comfortable as.
Has this been proven.
There’s evidence, but I don’t know enough of the science to tell how conclusive it is: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7139786/#:~:text=Regarding grey matter%2C the main,the anterior hypothalamus (INAH3).
yeah… That’s why they’re trans men?
Thank god, i was worried they might be frogs.
They can also process boobs if they’d like to
There have been some pretty interesting accounts of what it’s like to start testosterone. Vivid visual sexual fantasies and the like. Gives a new perspective on what being soaked in testosterone for decades does to your brain.
I’ll see if I can find some when I’m not on mobile.
You find testosterone better when not on mobile?
Yea accessing onion sites on mobile is annoying.
Yeah, ask any female bodybuilder what it’s like and they will tell you exactly that. Despite many of them using doses of testosterone that are still lower than what an average man naturally has
We have processed boobs now too?! First they went for our chicken nuggets, and we didn’t take notice…
Eh, I prefer my boob processing to be tactile. Juuuust to check.
I think this is the most upvoted comment I’ve ever seen here
Because one comment has never contained so much truth.
Because only the fittest/strongest hunted and the others gathered/crafted i guess?
It doesn’t seem that is so clear cut:
Men need to find animal
Women needed to make sure it was safe to eat
Men need to find animal
Women needed to make sure it was safe to eat
Most food eaten wasn’t harvested from animals for most of human history in most cases. The obsession with hunting and meat consumption is a cultural one FROM CURRENT CULTURE (especially in the US where I live).
There really is no good reason to enforce our current conceptions of gender, masculinity and feminity on wildly big swaths of human history. It is always a lie best case, worst case it plays into dangerous narratives about who “men” and “women” are “”“”“naturally”“”“” supposed to be.
These kinds of reductive generalizations seem fun to make but they are hurtful, just plain wrong and honestly just kind of boring compared to the actual truth.
Lol, you’re silly
Men were long crafters, and women long hunters.
And most us absolutely love filling those neurons with images of women
Fine detail and rapidly moving stimuli ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
That explains jiggle physics then
Hey, I am more complex than that!
I am agree
men have a 50 to 90% bigger genitals. I don’t see anyone talking about that! Also they can eat more because they have 20% more inside space, without fucking uterus and ovaries
I mean, in all fairness I sure do hope I have a bigger penis than my sister.
My Thai girlfriend says penis size doesn’t matter, but I still wish hers wasn’t bigger than mine.
women are better at discriminating between colors.
Well I’m red-green colorblind so I never stood a chance anyway. If it isn’t in a box of 8 crayons/markers, I don’t attempt to use that color’s name generally, cuz I will never pick the right shade. All the fuschias, magentas, maroons, burnt siennas, teals, cyans, etc. of the world can fuck off.
Isn’t colorblindness almost exclusively found in males too?
Probably oversimplifying, but it’s something about the mutation being on the X chromosome, meaning women have a backup X and men don’t.
You pretty much nailed it
It’s not really a backup X. In any given cell in a woman’s body, one of the X chromosomes has been inactivated into something called a Barr body. The remaining X chromosome is then the active one.
Women carriers of the gene defect for protan (causing protanopia in males) exhibit Schmidt’s Sign, an abnormal insensitivity to long wavelengths (red light). This is due to the highly skewed L:M cone ratio caused by the defective gene.
It is possible for someone with two X chromosomes to still be colorblind, but since this gene is recessice you have to have the mutation on both chromosomes, which makes it way more rare.
That explains women drivers.
The 1950s would like their joke back, please.
Woman bad, amirite guys?
Also why men run reds
You are literally charged more for insurance for being a man in the US because men are, observably and on average, worse drivers than women.
Yes, but to be more exact, men get in more expensive accidents, and women get into more frequent cheaper accidents. I assume it has to do more with risk taking.
Pretty much. Men speed more for example and drive under the influence more often. High mortality risk on those.
Women however tend to be a bit more distracted when driving; they use their phones more often behind the wheel for example. There’s also particular situations that simply happen more to women. I.e. they go grocery shopping and are distracted by the kids in the back seat and hit another car or object in the busy parking lot.
That’s also why innovations like backup cameras and parking sensors are great at reducing those sorts of accidents. But still: tell the wife to put the phones away if she’s driving. For everyone else’s safety too.
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