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And just like that . . . Windows deleted itself
I feel like I’m losing control
Muahaha now I can prepare for my final form: crotchety old man complaining about how they killed off the control panel.
Become boomer
I know people in IT who only use control panel. This will piss people off.
Hot take but anyone who refuses to rethink how things work during their lifetime causes changes to happen at the pace of 1 change per generation.
Of course, in this case, the new thing really is inferior.
I have no problem with change. But I do have a problem with Microsoft’s lack of QC or proper design methodology.
Yeah if the settings panel had feature parity with but with a better user experience nobody would mind but it’s less features AND a worse experience.
I remember trying to change some mouse settings on windows 10 but they removed the ability to get to the old mouse options from the desktop. I drilled down through the settings app and eventually buried deep I found where it would let me open up that same old mouse settings model to get to what I wanted to change. More clicks, more searching, and less features = poor user experience
I really love how many of the buttons in settings either open an edge web page where Microsoft shrugs at you or just opens the control panel for you to actually get something done…
But hey when I need to turn off transparency effects cause it’s making all my taskbar icons disappear every time I swap desktops the new settings page works great. Sometimes.
God they needed actual competition. Or something.
It’s certainly been a long drawn-out mess.
I mean I use windows and Linux for home and work. I’m happy with a changing ecosystem. The control panel is, often, the best tool to get shit done on windows.
Ew. They should expand their skill set to using terminal/powershell.
I’m not knocking on GUIs but I will call out “IT professionals” who ONLY know how to use GUIs.
Any time on Linux, but the windows shells are unusable. And configuration databases are much more convoluted things on windows than text files
To be fair powershell is more recent and windows has always used the control panel for most configuration, they are kind of rug pulling everyone who learned to use it and there arent clear terminal alternatives, for instance, how do I calibrate a game controller’s axis with the terminal?
Hot take, not everything should be powershell or cli. Control panel is pretty straightforward and even I use it from time to time. Because trying to find stuff in Settings is a nightmare.
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If you want Windows without a GUI, you should be using MS-DOS. The whole point of Windows is that it has a GUI.
That’s fine, I can’t imagine using another version of Windows once 10 LTSC hits EoL.
You will have to take ncpa.cpl from my cold dead hands
Changing IP assignment in the modern settings app is straight up annoying
This ^^^
This would bother me more if I hadn’t switched to Linux full time 5y ago. Microsoft is gonna Microsoft I guess.
Every one of these Microsoft controversies since I ditched them has just validated my decision.
Let’s be real…Microsoft finally depreciated Windows with Windows 11.
Classic Microsoft move to implement something new, then not let go of the old thing and run them jankily side by side. Settings / Control panel is a prime example.
And at work its janky crossovers between Active Directory and Azure/Intune/Entra/other dumb names.
no. fucking. way.
I haven’t personally used windows for a long while. I get to fix my wife’s stupid printer, scanner Adobe Acrobat. That’s it. I mean this is great! It means that we can just go on with our lives and automatically not be windows savvy anymore! So many benefits! I can just tell all my tech beneficiaries to take a hike or go Linux because I don’t know how to fix their dumbass windows! This is going to be great!
I’ve been doing that for years. I genuinely do not know how to fix Windows anymore. Took a while for my family and friends to accept since I “work with computers” but now they don’t automatically come to me when Windows breaks.
Oh this is good to know that the strategy works because that’s what I’m planning to do.
It’s a interesting trip through Windows history everytime I need to change an admin setting:
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You need to modify an admin setting (like…setting a MTU for example or changing an IP address (now possible in Settings, but wasn’t for a long time))
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You click through Settings -> Setting not available, but a Link to Control Panel -> click on the Control Panel Link (XP-Era) -> Advanced Settings on the Top-Window (Windows 2000) -> Finally, right click on the Network Adapter and select Properties and you are all the way back to Windows 95/98.
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Same with Powershell: A function or Cmdlet isn’t available? Let’s try this .Net thingy first, before we head to VBS
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Need to manage Sound Devices? Better do that in Control Panel, since most of the useful settings are still missing
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Need to remove a Outlook profile? Control Panel.
Windows is a prime example of inconsistent design, that’s why Device Manager still asks for drivers on a A:\ 3,5" floppy drive.
As an Administrator, I’m curious to see, what will become of Microsoft Management Console (MMC) and their Snap-Ins, which are still required to have by many still supported MS Products and third party tools. The last time I had to edit something in “Component Services” (Windows NT-Era Tool) was 2023.
That’s the kind of user-friendliness that Linux just can’t compete with.
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And just like that the last vestiges of my computing childhood are gone. I’m gonna go sadly play Oregon Trail on an emulator now.
Good luck finding the settings to allow unregistered exes without the control panel
Could always just use Linux.
I recently found the YT channel Michael MJD, and it has made me realize how fun and cool Microsoft was in the XP and 7 eras.
It was just before the cloud ruined everything and it was before the curse of the flat UI design.
It was a more fun time.
Windows 7 is the prettiest Windows ever made, with XP running Royale theme a close second.
They were the best Windows versions, but Microsoft was not cool. They were still monopolistic and anti-competitive as fuck. They still actively killed smaller companies, they still bribed politicians, etc.
I will grant you that I may be reflecting my oppinion on XP and 7 on Microsoft as a whole.
Microsoft mjght have been better than thwy are now then, but they were NEVER fun and cool. Dont be gaslit.
Spot the self-congratulary Linux user
Spot the bootlicker.
There’s nothing wrong with pointing out that a monopoly with a history of illegal anticompetitive behaviour aren’t cool.
They didn’t congratulate themselves, and the only person who brought up Linux here is you.
Oh fuck off, you don’t get to decide my oppinions.
If you dig deep enough into the internet you’ll find people who have been complaining about Microsoft since the dos days, and many of their complaints and fears have come true.
Oh yeah, I remember the mems from back in the late 90s, I reacted harshly to the previous comment as they claimed that I was being gaslit.
I remember using Windows as far back as 3.11, I know my own feelings.
If you look further in the thread you’ll also see that I admitted that I was probably reflecting my oppinion on XP and 7 onto Microsoft as a whole.
Is this just for 11, or are they going to ruin 10 some more with this change too?
I’m not seeing it mentioned in the article.Well, 10 is going away in about a year anyway, isn’t it. I don’t think they really care about 10 anymore.
It’s just support that’s going away, not the OS.
I’m staying on 10 until it really doesn’t work, and then moving entirely to Linux. I already don’t use windows much and I’m not missing most of it.
If you insist on using it that long, at least find a good copy of Win 10 LTSC. It’s supported for much longer.
And that’s completely fine. I would advise on a cut-off date of around Oct 15. 2025. Your OS won’t receive any security updates after that and having it connected to internet at that point is going to be a major risk.
You have more than a year to prepare, though. Use it wisely. :)
I personally think the risk of not receiving updates is pretty overstated. I’m more concerned with when applications stop supporting it - which normally happens because libraries stop supporting it.
Very recently a 0-click vulnerability was discovered where all you needed in order to be attacked is having IPv6 enabled.
If you don’t have security updates you are at risk of these attacks, even if you don’t click on suspicious links or download random apps.
Well. When the OS stops receiving updates there’s a whole lot of stuff that stops receiving updates (much of which is the libraries that are being updated with the OS).
Using Windows 10 past the cut-off date is perfectly possible but more and more of the security of your device (and, as it’ll be connected to the internet, all other unpatched devices) will be on you, rather than a large company (or a collective of really smart people).
