Musk has posted about an impending civil war on his social media platform X at least eight times in the past 10 months. Some warn it’s dangerous rhetoric.
Tech billionaire Elon Musk has repeatedly prophesied a future civil war related to immigration.
Musk has posted about the subject on his social media platform X at least eight times in the past 10 months, according to a review of his posts by NBC News. And his posts usually include a specific prediction: He thinks that Europe in particular is headed toward a “civil war” due to the arrival of refugees from other continents.
Musk’s interest in the subject of a civil war poked into public view earlier this month when he weighed in on anti-immigration street riots happening across Great Britain. “Civil war is inevitable,” he wrote on X.
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Musk’s rhetoric is unheard-of for a corporate executive speaking in public, but the prediction of a civil war has become a frequent talking point among some far-right activists who view a civil war in Europe or the U.S. as not only unavoidable but also as something to be welcomed.
“What you’re seeing in these calls for civil war is a white supremacist clarion call. It is a dog whistle,” said Jon Lewis, a research fellow at George Washington University’s Program on Extremism.
Just another tool who expects a) everyone else would do the fighting and dirty work, and b) he’s going to be on the winning side and in charge.
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This guy and the other oligarchs are the 2nd biggest threat to the country.
What’s the first? Right wing nationalism? If so, it’s been systematically propped and fostered by the oligarchs to sow division. It wouldn’t be the problem it is without their continued support.
Before Trump they did not have a champion.
He’s just trying to sell more cybertrucks.
He plans to sell to both sides.
I have a feeling that too many people are seeing a civil war through the lens of Hollywood - where you get to follow the hero and his/her ragtag group. They get into trouble, get hurt and knocked down but in the end they prevail and save the day/country. While there maybe blood and violence it’s never really too bad.
What I think people don’t understand or want to think about is how fucking miserable a full blown civil war would be for most everyone. Sure the mega-rich will be able to wall off the worst of it, but the 99% are going to feel it and it would suck.
So to all those people that are wishing for a civil war - fuck off. You will not be the Hollywood hero you think you will be, more than likely you will be one of 1,000’s of corpses littering the ground.
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mega-rich
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the 99%
The two parties of the war that we actually need.
You know the 99% percent will soon look for another 1% soon after they win, right? It’s America, without Rich guys to look up to you don’t have a culture or purpose.
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The super rich make bank on civil wars. A good and proper war in any developed country would make hundreds of new billionaires and thousands of new millionaires: the hugest wealth transfer in history for that unlucky country.
Meanwhile most of the patriots, true believers, on all sides, who fight, would be dead or maimed or locked up. With most others stuck in poverty , illness and bad leadership whoever won.
Its good business for Musk and company to give a little push now and then
I’ve found myself taking a paradoxically accelerationist stance about it, for this exact reason. At the moment, those on the right agitating for violence are a minority, and those that are actually prepared to act consist primarily of a few thousand militia LARPers and an even smaller number of actually-capable fighters. These groups are gradually accruing malcontents while the right wing’s filter bubble casts their ideas as acceptable, but the sooner those chuds decide to go loud, the more lopsided and emphatic the beatdown will be – provided that the armed forces are under the command of non-authoritarian President. Afterwards the public condemnation of insurrectionists will effectively choke off recruiting. Conflict feels almost inevitable at this point and giving the violent authoritarian fringe more time to plan and recruit only makes that conflict deadlier.
The militia movement has grown massively in recent years, there’s thousands of militia members in most states at this point.
The only people wishing for civil war are too short-sighted to understand how horribly it would go for them. Ports, airports, water treatment plants, data centers, power stations etc etc etc predominantly located in urban areas. Good luck to the AR-15 loving whackjobs when they’re instantly landlocked and deprived of foreign trade and means to communicate. They turn on the TV and the only broadcasts they’d see are “this can end now and it all starts with you”
You did a good job of enumerating my thoughts. I think that they think that war will be enable them to act out their power fantasy and line up how you’re saying.
I’d be more worried about the rhetoric if I thought most people who are still on Twitter and agreed with Musk were able to carry their AR-15 any significant distance before getting winded.
It’s gotten worse than that, I’m afraid. That ProPublica article that dropped yesterday about the militias was concerning.
Because this is the Internet, a link is always appreciated: https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-secret-ap3-militia-american-patriots-three-percent.
This joke has gotten pretty old by now and only helps downplay the seriousness of their dangerous ideas.
Haha you showed those silly fat gun owners. Good thing they aren’t carrying something that can shoot a projectile faster then you can run!
If you thought I was making this about gun owners in general and not right-wing Elon worshipers, why do you think I specifically mentioned the gun they think will win them this civil war of theirs?
Not everyone is out to take your guns away.
I doubt folks are marching anywhere and shooting at each other it’ll be more likely drones doing the work. You can fly a drone from your home or your car or your yard. They even have drones with AKs attached to them. Maybe the civil war after the next one will be fought with people in formation again, but the civil war these guys are proposing will be much more digital.
He’s right… But about the wrong thing. Eat the rich folks.
“What you’re seeing in these calls for civil war is a white supremacist clarion call. It is a dog whistle,” said Jon Lewis, a research fellow at George Washington University’s Program on Extremism.
Hmmm …
“The Turner Diaries is a 1978 novel by William Luther Pierce, a neo-Nazi and the founder and chairman of National Alliance, a white nationalist group, published under the pseudonym Andrew Macdonald. It depicts a violent revolution in the United States which leads to the overthrow of the federal government, a nuclear war, and ultimately a race war which leads to the systematic extermination of non-whites and Jews. All groups opposed by the novel’s protagonist, Earl Turner—including Jews, non-white people, “liberal actors,” and politicians—are murdered en masse.”
The fact that I’ve heard people unironically call for the Day of the Rope.
That’s the ending of the book when the liberals lose power because of all the fucking nukes that the “Heroes” dropped and the “Good White Men” stand up and start lynching all the people who “Let it get so bad” in public. The book even says that many “Innocent” people were killed in the conclusion of it, but the heroes write it off as a “necessary sacrifice for the greater good”
It’s full of insanity that feels more like parody, but this is their actual fantasy… A war-torn uninhabitable nuclear wasteland where the survivors just pick non-descript fruit all day.
This is a book where the good guy beats a white teenager to death withe a crowbar because she had the gall to get raped by a black man, and that’s obviously her fault… /s This guy is said to be a calm nerdy type who was liberal all his life too…
It’s also said that white feminists legalized rape to promote equality between the sexes, yes I’m not kidding. The whole book is the most fucked up piece of shit I’ve ever seen in my life.
There’s just… so much wrong with Turner Diaries it makes my spine hurt. It really reads like a cautionary tale about fascism written as an extremely edgy parody of “What Right Wingers actually believe”, but… no this book really means that…
Edit: Wait what did he say that had to do with the Turner Diaries.
Ay yo! What’s up with south Africans and civil war?!
I mean, surely we can all see this approaching?
Yeah, I didn’t think he’s writing about it happening. But fuck him for doing everything he can to make it more likely.
Apartheid Clyde is interested in Civil War huh? Ya don’t say.
Fascist is obsessed with violence, yes
Together we stand, divided we fall.
Divide and conquer.
This is all you need to understand. Anyone that considers civil war in anyway is doing it so they can be part of the divide. The purchasing and changing of Twitter into what it is now is part of that plan. Twitter was a unique and special together that the world shared. Musk’s destroyed that town foyer that was bringing the whole world together.
Twitter was a unique and special together that the world shared. Musk’s destroyed that town foyer that was bringing the whole world together.
Please. Yeah it’s worse now but let’s stop pretending it wasn’t always shit
The world is a shitty place but it was a place where everyone almost had access to instant information and if your timing was right, you can get your voice noticed. No matter your social status.
You can tell people have never seen civil war when they’re excited for one.
Or any kind of war.
It’s not so bad… for the super-rich and powerful who can afford to buy protection or simply jet off to a peaceful place while cheering for whatever side they favor.
Remember this guy was born in a white-minority-ruled country. Comfy in his luxury gated community while paid tugs would break the heads of the blacks who would dare poke out of their “townships” (shanty towns) to ask for fair treatment.
