Author J.K. Rowling has fallen silent on her usually busy X (formerly Twitter) feed, after Olympic gold medalist boxer Imane Khelif filed a legal complaint in France for alleged cyber harassment over statements regarding her gender.
On August 9, lawyers for Khelif filed a lawsuit with a special unit of the public prosecutor’s office in Paris, stemming from false statements that spread online about her gender after the Algerian boxer defeated Italy’s Angela Carini in her first fight of the 2024 Olympic Games. Carini pulled out 46 seconds into the bout and told reporters afterwards that she had “never felt a punch like this.”
I hope she pays dearly for her racism and bigotry.
Racism?
Yes, she is Algerian (North African) and that was a major reason if not the reason why she was targeted.
She was targeted because it was spread falsely she had XY chromosomes and had high testosterone, not that she was North African. Rowling has had plenty of hate for white trans people.
I also mentioned bigotry. I am aware she is a TERF.
Attempting to insinuate racism diminishes the other truthful charges.
I mean, her books are full of racist tropes, like obvious ones. Ones she still defends to this day.
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And JK Rowling specifically is a racist.
No it wasn’t
all of this started when the (Russian controlled) IBA suddenly disqualified Khelif (who had been boxing for many years without issue) after beating a Russian. Since then IOC banned the IBA due to ties with organized crime, history of corruption, and financial instability, so now IBA has no influence on olympic boxing whatsoever.
Then twitter warriors picked up on the story based on nothing more than “looks like a man” which happens disproportionately more to women of color. So yes, this kind of thing often does have racial undertones.
Transgender people in competitive sports that are already segregated by biological sex is relatively uncharted, and should be carefully navigated. There are ways, and appropriate settings, to bring this topic up respectfully. Twitter is not the place, and these people are not qualified to offer their opinion. JK (and others) aren’t fighting some good cause, they’re just being assholes.
On top of invalidating the lived experience of a cis-woman because this Olympic boxer with more muscle than most men looks kinda masculine in some pictures.
So much for the “we can always tell”.
It’s a double whammy of bigotry.
this Olympic boxer with more muscle than most men
Just a false statement that furthers the bigoted narrative we’re discussing in this thread lol
She’s has more muscle than me.
What about this statement is false?
Huh?
This is right. This requires a discussion a bit wider than 420 letters, even more when they come from Rowling
Wheres the evidence she ‘never failed a gender test’ that was the fact that made everyone upset. Jk did nothing hundreds of thousands of other ppl who read the articles about this also said. You gender warriors are nuts, your hate for this woman is hilarious.
Hundreds of people hung people of color from trees without a fair trial. They are still guilty whether or not others did so.
Wheres the evidence she ‘never failed a gender test’ that was the fact that made everyone upset.
Yeah, where’s the proof of this negative?!? /s
Now we just need your proof that your hero JD Vance never fucked a couch.
By “this woman,” do you mean Rowling? Are you sure she’s a woman? Has she taken a gender test?
I get where you’re coming from. But she has popped a crotch goblin out in the past, which is a pretty good indication of womanhood. (Side note: I’m not saying if a woman can’t or won’t have kids they aren’t a woman, because they clearly still are. But if a woman does give birth to a child it’s usually a strong sign of that gender.)
ETA: If this prospective lawsuit can shut Rowling up long-term that would be fantastic. Like many others, I’m tired of her spewing hateful shit out.
I know men who’ve given birth, and women who haven’t, so I’m not sure it means what you think it means…
That’s why I said it’s usually a strong indication.
How do you know she did? Were you at the birth? Have you seen video? How do you know the child wasn’t adopted?
You mean Robert Galbraith? JK is a little gender fluid anyway.
I totally believe Algeria sent a transwomen to the olympics…
For the record: Being trans is highly illegal in Algeria
It’s impossible to prove that someone ‘never failed a gender test’ you can only prove that someone passed or failed a specific test. Maybe if you understood logic and critical thinking a bit better it might help you in your life. I’d recommend learning.
I think of JK Rowling the same way as Orson Scott Card. They have opinions that differ from mine, but I still like their work. Am I missing something? I get that Rowling’s opinions suck, but I don’t really understand the extent people go in the disdain for her. She’s allowed to have opinions on things we don’t agree with. She’s not out there stabbing babies.
She’s not out there stabbing babies
Rowling is using her considerable clout to drum up hatred of trans people. She might not be wielding the bat, but she helps embolden those who do. It’s essentially stochastic terrorism. To my knowledge, Card has not gone nearly as far off the deep end in this respect.
“I don’t agree with the nazis, but they are allowed to have opinions that we don’t agree with, I don’t understand the hate”
Yeah, no problem with that logic. Wanting a minority to die/not exist is just an opinion not worth disdain, that’s all, right?
The bigotry is on the same level, but I think JK Rowling is actively militant on a far different level compared to Orson Scott Card. Just looking at their twitter for example, OSC tweets maybe once a month and 9/10 times it’s about a book signing or other such promotion. JK Rowling’s feed is a constant flow of hatred on trans people. She tries very hard to make sure you are reminded of her bigotry every single time you hear anything about her.
The reach is different too. OSC has some 16k followers. Rowling has 15 million. It’s natural for her to attract a much higher degree of disdain.
This is it right here. I am a trans person and I actually like both the enderverse and harry potter and I’m not a fan of either author. But I can say I like the enderverse without any shame or self loathing because Card doesn’t appear to speak about his shitty views unless directly asked.
Now with Joanne on the other hand… Well, fuck her and her IP and everything else she might ever do. She is a billionaire and like Musk just can’t be happy with that and shut the fuck up. I get it you foul bitch, you hate me and that I exist, now go buy a fucking yacht and let me struggle to pay rent, buy food, and simply live in peace. All I have ever done to that self righteous cunt is buy her books and yet she feels the need to denigrate me and my existence and espouse hate directed toward me every chance she gets. Just stfu Joanne, you’ve won the game you never have to worry about having your basic needs met ever again. You’ve won. Now go the fuck away.
Basically I can put blinders on and still enjoy the enderverse and shadows, but I can’t do that with Joanne. Harry Potter will never hold the same place in my heart as it once did. I cannot read it anymore without feeling gross and disgusted with myself for enjoying anything this foul human has produced.
To be fair, Ender Wiggin calls his black friend the N word and jokes about owning him as a slave one time. Ender’s Game still somehow manages to be less racist than Harry Potter, but it’s a close race.
Totally agree with you that I’m less ashamed to like the Ender books tho. Every time I try to understand Leibniz I just remember reading the Ender sequels.
She’s gone hard into terf land and is spreading hate and disinfo about trans people
Is that the bar for you? Anything less evil than directly and personally stabbing a baby is ok?
I’ve started referring to JK as “Jacob Rowling”.
I know that they’re completely unaware of it, but I get some smug satisfaction out of misgendering them.
Joseph would work better considering her birth name was Joanne.
Joseph Kenneth Rowling.
Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much
Look, not to be “that guy” but the importance of using someone’s preferred pronouns doesn’t fly out the window when you don’t like them. That just makes you hypocritical.
Bash them for being a piece of shit all you like, but the moment you’re choosing to misgender them intentionally you’re signaling that pronoun choice only matters when you like the person being referred to.
She’s a bully. It’s time she actually faced consequences for her actions.
Bahahaha not so careless about throwing your hatred around on your sleeve now, are you bitch?
And here I thought that she would happily go to jail over her bigotry: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jk-rowling-willing-jail-misgendering_n_65314d65e4b00565b6234d11
I guess we shouldn’t be too surprised that a fantasy author has a lot of silly fantasies about herself.
Did anything come of the rumors that she plagiarized at least the first book, and premise of the entire series?
Are you referring to The Legend of Rah and the Muggles? That was found to be bullshit the second people read the book. It’s an extremely weird story about nuclear fallout, a self fulfilling prophecy, and a shit ton of meandering filler. The only similarity was use of the word “muggle”, which doesn’t even mean the same thing in both stories. JK may be a TERF now, but she is not a plagiarist.
She’s not a plagiarist per se, but the idea of an elite school for wizards is not exactly original to her. There’s The Worst Witch series of books. The first one was published in 1974. They were a huge hit, especially in the UK, leading eventually to a TV movie with a very impressive cast list in the 1980s, which, you will note, was decades before Rowling wrote any Harry Potter book.
There’s absolutely no way she was not aware of those books. In fact, considering she was nine years old when the first one came out- the exact age for those books- she almost certainly read it and treasured it and it almost certainly inspired her to write Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone.
On top of that, there was Ursula LeGuin’s Earthsea novels, the first of which takes place in large part at a boarding school for wizards where a poor boy who is from a non-magical family is sent after showing that he has magical powers and ends up being the most powerful wizard in the world, fighting the ultimate magical evil.
That was published in 1968 and I would be very surprised if Rowling hadn’t read it before she wrote her books, because that is just too similar.
Maybe? I just remembered some thread from ages ago where people were saying that some guy had written a book that wasn’t popular, and she reworked it. This may have been pre-reddit, it was that long ago.
Hence why I said rumors. I didn’t remember anything that was a smoking gun, or a conclusion to that rumor.
Almost none of the ideas in any of those books are original, they’re all cribbed from somewhere else, but that’s always the way art is created whether the creator knows it or not. The premise of a kid discovering he’s special and entering a secret world of other special people is not something new to childrens’ literature
Its always X (formerly twitter) and i bet elon hates that.
I bet he doesn’t. It’s in the news, it means his platform is still relevant.
The irony of Rowling getting sued for calling a biological woman trans
Fucking destroy her.
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What lack of downvotes? I don’t see one.
Was at a solid zero when I commented.
So you were impatient.
This is a leftist echo chamber, I have no idea what you mean.
Oh no, reality has a left-leaning bias. We must change reality!
The absolute horror!!
Oh no, consequences.
Only because she attacked a cis woman. No consequences from the years doing everything in her power to targetedly harass individual trans peolle, the community as a whole or publishing books about trans serial killers.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy to see her go quite, I hope she stays that way. But I’m bitter it wasn’t a realization that her crusade was mysgonstic hatred, only that she was a zealot who accidently friendly fired.
It’s the start, the lawsuit has more chance to win that way, and can pave a path for trans people to win cyberbullying lawsuits too
This isn’t friendly fire. TERFism is inherently white supremacist and Khelif was targeted for her race.
I abundetly agree that is correct. But I am doing my best to try to think of her personal viewpoint, in JK’s mind she is defending women from men. Hell, her stupid books are a racist allegory for how evil racism is, but when she gets praised from literaly white supramcists and dictarors, she makes excuses for being the greater good.
It’s only when from her mind, she attacked another woman, that she is finally giving pause. Even if all she has done in actuality for the last several years is outright misogyny. Which is why I am so frustrated, she didn’t wake up to what a monster she has been, just that she needs to be more careful in who she “righteously” attacks.
I don’t think Rowling is as capable of change as you do. I think Rowling still sees Khelif 100% as a male man, because she’s black. And I think Rowling is viewing this as the woke lobby taking away all her money and making her live on the street for challenging them. I think this is making Rowling incredibly outraged, and she’s only shut up out of fear. And that’s good. I want Rowling to be angry and scared and powerless. Because I don’t think anything in the world could ever convince her that trans women are women.
I miss trial by combat.
in JK’s mind she is defending women from men
You could have made this claim once, and it been believable.
Had Rowling made even one…just one comment about the literal child rapist (whose victim was a 12-year-old girl) that competed at this Olympics…you might have been able to keep believing this.
But her absolute silence about an issue where an actual girl was traumatised by the actions of an actual man, and insistence on going to war against a woman who she’s pretending is a man instead, completely removes any semblance of doubt there. Her goal is to delegitimise trans women. That’s not just an instrumental goal, it is the terminal goal: the cruelty is the entire point.
I’m not arguing, but how is TERFism white supremacy?
TERFism restricts feminism to a tightly defined and controlled ingroup. The criteria for determining who is a real woman, when employed by bigots, will inevitably come to describe the socially dominant form of femininity, which is white femininity. Black and Arab women like Khelif will always fail to pass the standards of white femininity, because they’re not white. The standards are racist. And TERFs invariably pick racist standards, because the kind of people who feel the need to police womanhood to appeal to an imagined ideal are people who will end up doing that in more ways than one. And also, TERFs are always hanging out and allying with overly white supremacist groups, because Nazis are the only people who will put up with assholes like Rowling. That’s why she’s always taking photos with fascists.
Don’t forget it’s also inherently misogynistic and attacks cis women all the time anyways.
I just had a great idea. You know how Rowling is always going on in the narration of the HP books about how X bad female character has “mannish hands”? Let’s turn Rowling and her mannish hands into a meme just to fuck with her
only that she was a zealot who accidently friendly fired.
Bigotry is illogical, and will always ‘friendly fire’. No one is ever safe. People have transvestigated Joanne Koanne Roanne and Andrew Tate. No one is ever safe.
tbf tho Tate is a little manlet. I am in disbelief that anyone takes their cues on traditional masculinity from him. Guy with a face like that, he should be preaching the virtues of open mindedness and tolerance. If he was, I’d respect his masculinity. But since he demands that men be judged for failing to embody masculinity, I’m happy to treat him as he wishes to be treated and conclude he is a tiny soyboy with a pathetic chin.
Is Rowling even subject to French legal proceedings?
Rich people often have their fingers in a lot of pies, so I wouldn’t be shocked. You know how the saying goes,“Mo’ money (that you’re semi-illicilty hiding internationally to evade domestic taxes), mo’ problems.”
The harassment lawsuit alleges “aggravated cyber-harassment” against Khelif, according to a statement from the boxer’s lawyer, Nabil Boudi, who was quoted by The Associated Press. Variety reported that the complaint was filed against X, which means under French law that it was filed against unknown persons. Investigators at the Paris prosecutor’s office will determine who could be at fault in Khelif’s complaint.
If she ends up being found liable in an EU country, I bet she won’t be able to travel to any EU country without facing that liability. X is an international platform, and she’s broadcasting her words internationally, so yes, she can be held accountable in countries where this carries civil or criminal liability.
Also any EU royalty payments could be garnished until her debt from her liability is paid in full.
With the sales numbers of Harry Potter stuff, i doubt there will be a problem of securing the money.
I imagine that her Harry Potter stuff is owned by a corporation. That is probably all separate legally from her.
So her Harry Potter stuff is probably fine as she is getting sued not the Harry Potter corporation.
It will mainly affect her ability to travel around Europe.
She’s also one of the richest women in the world, so she won’t really suffer any major loss unfortunately.
Well at the very least it could block her from going to France? Which as a rich British middle-aged woman I’m sure she would hate not being able to do.
Get her!
