• elfpie@lemmy.eco.br
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    You eat the base of the pizza there? That’s crazy. It’s like eating a paper plate. You are supposed to eat only the topping. Next you’re gonna say you eat the bread that wraps your sandwiches.

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    It depends on the quality of the crust, and just how much pizza i’ve already eaten, a man’s gotta have a code.

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    3 months ago

    Fuck that.

    • You’re a grown ass adult, eat whatever you want

    If you don’t like the taste of crust and have enough money that you don’t need to make use of every piece of food, then don’t eat the crust.

    If you don’t like the taste of crust but think it has some benefit to you or others, then eat the crust.

    If you don’t have a lot of money and want to eat the crust to feel full so you can spend more money on other stuff, then do that.

    YOU’RE AN ADULT, YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, DON’T LET SOCIETY PRESSURE YOU TO DO OTHERWISE

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      Counterpoint: Society should be pressuring people not to increase food waste just because they can afford throw stuff away for no reason.

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        People throwing away crust isn’t even a grain of sand in the ocean of food waste. But as stated in my original comment, you can decide to eat the crust for that reason if that reason feels important to you. And even though you would be wrong for pressuring other people to eat crusts, the other person should do whatever the duck they want despite your pressuring

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          This opinion is a similar vein as “there’s no point recycling plastic because most plastic waste is caused by industry”. We are all grains of sand on this earth. And in turn we are all full of microplastics.

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            Actually there’s no point in recycling plastic because the plastic you put in the recycling bin ends up in a landfill anyway, so yes we should be going after the industries instead of blaming individuals

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              That very much depends on where you live. Deciding to not recycle because you think it doesn’t get done properly in your locality is just as dumb as not recycling because you think industry is a bigger polluter.

              I understand that climate change isn’t being entirely caused by you not recycling properly, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a shitty move to just say fuck it and not even bother trying.

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                  Imagine, long after humans are extinct and the things we created are obliterated or decayed into their component parts. Other life has taken over and the planet has done its volcanic and plate shifting things, the rains and oceans have done their erosion. Then another highly intelligent species evolves.

                  First of all they’re going to have a hard time with their industrial revolution because we took all the easy metals and fossil fuels, but maybe the planet has had enough time to churn some things up.

                  This new species marvels at the qualities of a certain stratified layer rarely observed above ground. Eventually drilling leads to a discovery of this layer over most of the earth. And it’s fucking plastic.

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                  5% worldwide? It absolutely matters where you live. Look at progressive countries and you will see that it is not that low a percentage when people actually make an effort: https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statistics/statistics-by-subject-area/environment/waste/waste-packaging/pong/tables-and-graphs/recycling-targets/

                  None of this knowledge is a reason to not use recycling when it is available. When you have a waste bin and a recycling bin and just put plastics in the waste, that’s a douche move.

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            Plastics recycling doesn’t happen much because it is an expensive process, and new plastic is too cheap. Even if you put it in the blue recycling bin, it’s fairly unlikely that it actually gets recycled and used again.

            Metals actively get recycled well. Paper and glass recycle okay, but in practice also face problems.

            Some coverage:

            https://www.npr.org/2022/10/24/1131131088/recycling-plastic-is-practically-impossible-and-the-problem-is-getting-worse

            https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/glass-recycling.htm

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              Yes there is a problem with more disposable, non-recyclable plastics being used. Of course that’s on industry to fix. That does not mean plastic recycling is pointless. If you’re in the privileged position to literally have a bin specifically for that, recyclable plastics will be filtered out and recycled. If you have that and they don’t, that’s on your municipality to fix. Deciding to not bother with the process which is right there in front of you because you read it’s “not 100%” is super dumb.

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                Waste management experts say the problem with plastic is that it is expensive to collect and sort. There are now thousands of different types of plastic, and none of them can be melted down together. Plastic also degrades after one or two uses. Greenpeace found the more plastic is reused the more toxic it becomes.

                New plastic, on the other hand, is cheap and easy to produce. The result is that plastic trash has few markets — a reality the public has not wanted to hear.

                From the NPR source I listed earlier. Industry has no interest or ability in fixing this issue by recycling, and vanishingly few municipalities are likely to subsidize plastics recycling to a level at which it makes an appreciable dent in plastic waste.

                The plastics industry has cynically forwarded the idea of plastics recycling despite knowing it was unfeasible. We need to drastically reduce plastic use, and probably limit the types of plastic produced for the sorting problem to be mitigated enough that recycling or a clean disposal method is feasible.

                https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/the-plastic-industry-knowingly-pushed-recycling-myth-for-decades-new-report-finds

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                  Right. As I said (whether or not they have interest) the fix for usage, production and sorting is on them. Much like if you have plastics recycling available, it is absolutely on you to use it.

                  Plastic is a finite resource that is not going to disappear from global usage any time soon. Just throwing your hands up and saying “only x% actually gets recycled” or “where I live they don’t do it well” is just adding to the existing problem.

                  Just fucking recycle.

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          guess you never learned to finish your plate.

          there’s kids starving in Africa for fucks sake

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        But their point of not liking the crust and thinking it has some benefit? Being against food waste is literally that. I was gonna comment something similar before realizing.

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          But that’s exactly what i said - do whatever the fuck you want! If you want to eat the crust so you don’t create as much food waste, then eat the crust! You’re an adult, you can do whatever you want!

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        If you eat food just because you “Don’t want to waste it”, you become the wastebin.

        I’ll mail the leftover crusts to “children in Africa”, maybe that will solve the world hunger.

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          Or, you know, someone in need nearby. There are homeless people eating out of garbage and families using food banks everywhere. But then you’d also look like an asshole for just giving them a bunch of crusts instead of a whole slice.

          How about just not buying more food than you can eat? Or save a couple of slices for the next day? Or give someone else a slice before you fill up on the inner circle of your plate of food?

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            Have you ever been outside?

            1. Homeless people aren’t just everywhere. Normal countries deal with homeless people properly - they house them and take care of them

            2. I don’t know how much pizza I’m going to get at a restaurant.

            3. I don’t always go home, so boxing leftovers is not always an option.

            It’s almost like idiotic blanket statements like “be a man, eat the crust” are fucking moronic.

            Be an adult and treat your body with respect. Listem do your stomach and your brain, not what some weirdos online think is “the right thing to do”.

            Plus, if I leave the crust, it signals the restaurant that the portion is too big.

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      Proper bread is a very very basic acquired taste. It’s something you should’ve acquired in your teens latest. If you don’t like crust, it’s because you mother was helicopter parenting and cutting off crust from your sandwiches.

      I swear that the best burger in town, the best sandwich in town, the best pizza in town and the best breakfast bread are all because of the crust.

      Not even attempting to eat it is a lack of experience. Or a lack of good bakeries or burger, pizzaand sandwich stores.

      I’m telling you that you’re missing out here. It’s not a fucking choice. You don’t know what you’re missing until you’ve had a proper crust. Cutting it off is like, yeah sure there are bad crust and all, but you’re only eating the less important part of the meal to begin with. How can you even judge the food without the crust?

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          I think they’ve got a point. You like bread like a good sourdough or baguette? Or you like American sandwich bread full of sugar. It is a world of difference and they’ve got a point. Lack of experience is nicer than saying you have bad taste. Maybe you’ve just had bad pizza? Maybe you’re fucking 16? Hard to tell on the Internet

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      I used to think like the OP/image, but now I’m in your camp. You should absolutely eat things you don’t enjoy if they are good for you. But bad pizza crust is just punishing your mouth while gaining weight.

      I understand the food waste argument, but it’s wasted whether you eat it or not. You’re wasting just as much if you don’t eat the peel of the banana.

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      Yeah. There’s nothing wrong with the crust, but if you’re going to blow your carb budget on a pizza at least keep the pleasure:carb ratio as high as possible.

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            Toss the crust

            • Pro: No additional negative effect on your enjoyment of the food or your body
            • Pro: compost and let the plants eat it
            • Con: You cease to be a grown ass man

            Eat the crust

            • Con: Negative enjoyment
            • Con: Extra Calorie consumed. More strain on the medical system.

            If anything, eating the crust would be the “wasteful” decision. I’m sure if it were possible to get the same pizza without crust, all of these people would jump on that chance.

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            Not eating the crust is eating less pizza!

            Do you stop eating when you are full, or do you polish off everything on your plate every time? Do you throw out food that has spoiled and feel bad because you didn’t eat it soon enough?

            Based on your logic someone shouldn’t ever eat pizza if they don’t enjoy the entirety of every slice. Do you judge people who pick off toppings they don’t like from a compromise pizza? What if they don’t eat every side that comes with a meal in a restaurant?

            What if they don’t drink their entire glass of water? WHY ARE THEY WASTING WATER?

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              Well, basically yes to every question. Those all amount to waste and that is always a bad thing.

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          True, the best way to portion control any meal is to put 120% of your portion on a plate and eat the middle out of it until you get to 100%.

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            Unless there is an option to cut a slice into a smaller slice, eating less than one serving size by discarding a portion of the food is still portion control.

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              Of course there is.

              But the slice goes from tip to crust. No one else is going to eat your tip or crust, thus if someone discards it, it becomes waste.

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                Just like the food that was thrown out due to not being served.

                Pizza crust is the cheapest waste. Like a few pennies per slice at most. Calling it wasteful is the most ridiculous stance to take.

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                  This is a thread about pizza and portion size, not comparing pizza to other foods.

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                No one else is going to eat your tip or crust

                Nobody got good friends? Siblings? I’ll eat a random stranger’s unwanted pizza parts if I’m hungry.

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    “Crust” makes it sound like superfluous detritus. It’s cornicione! Pizza is mostly bread, so if the bread is bad then it’s not worth eating.

    Neapolitan pizza has a high hydration dough cooked at very high temp, resulting in a delightfully light cornicione filled with large air pockets. The bread is delicious enough to enjoy on its own, which is why it only needs simple toppings like uncooked San Marzano tomato and a few shreds of mozarella. IMO Italian cuisine excels at allowing high quality produce speak for themselves through its simplicity and elegance. What they’re shitting out at Papa Johns and whatever is an abomination.

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    “We’re now live at Mr Plohmann’s who’s voluntarily eaten nothing but pizza crust for four years.”

    “I never said ‘voluntarily’!”

    “You still eating that?”