What’s strange is that the abuse has been ongoing for more than a decade and the US this kind of measure is still in the “we’re proposing to do this” stage.
hey imagine if ALL this stuff were like this, and all the stuff our systems of organization did were stuff like this.
that would be pretty cool, right? like, no offensive wars, no weird syphilis shit, no trying to find the lethal dose of LSD my spiking random dudes’ drinks.
just, like, being cool and making things better and building shit. wouldn’t that be great?
We know the lethal dose of LSD is high enough that nobody can afford one!
and we have the CIA to thank for that discovery.
I feel like the list of which lawmakers vote for and against this should be headline news but I won’t hold my breath.
There would be nothing to print since many of these laws are squashed with the automatic filibuster threat and the general US system built on obstruction so they never make it to a vote.
The majority of laws that end up getting passed are either because horrible people are angry enough to stick with it or it sounds like a positive thing, but is bad enough to get the horrible votes (Patriot Act).
Nevermind all that, where do I get me Crews Card™?
There are stickers you can order
It’s long overdue. Seems like a common sense thing but it’s different than the typical type of legislation so it seems unexpected.
My mom told me about her bank “it’s impossible to get anyone on the phone anymore” and I didn’t believe it. I tried myself and wow, she was right. The fraud department, sure . Just basic customer service, though, they’d take you in circles with their robot phone menu, make you repeatedly verify your information, then just hang up on you. Pretty wild that’s how a major bank can get away with treating their customers.
Major bank is probably the problem. I’ve never had issues contacting a live person at our credit union, nor with any customer service at all, from resolving card issues to working with us to make a loan doable.
Same. I had terrible issues with BoA, Chase, and Capital One but since switching to a local credit union I’ve been really happy with my service.
I’d like to see the wording before forming an opinion. I think it’s an awesome idea on the face of it. However, I would hate for it to kill off the CLI button a lot of credit card companies have put out. That’s exactly the kind of thing a bad actor would put in to either kill it off or make it suck so that they could point and say “See, the Dems suck and hate you!”
CLI button?
Credit Unions are one of the easiest examples of how socialism works in the best interest of the general public. There is a reason that they provide great customer service, and it is because they are not run by malicious capitalists.
A credit union is a financial cooperative, owned and controlled by the people who use its services. Credit unions call their owners “members.” That means that all of the money they make goes back to you, the members. It’s your money to begin with, and it’s pooled with the resources of all other credit union members.
Credit unions don’t have any outside stockholders. As non-profit organizations, credit unions are exempt from certain tax requirements. All of the money that’s deposited in accounts, all of the interest collected on our loans, every dollar that comes into a credit union stays with the credit union. That money is used to keep loan rates low and savings rates of return high.
Crazy idea, but imagine if we took that idea and expanded it to other public services.
I know, madness. Never mind.
Damn commies.
/s
It is absolutely ridiculous that we have cooperatives in many sectors that have all shown to be effective and it is all overshadowed by shitty capitalists like Musk. Although I don’t exclusively shop at coops and employee owned businesses, the ones I do shop at have the best customer service and are not more expensive than comparable businesses.
Also typically more competition, there’s usually 2-3 I’ve been eligible for in most places I’ve lived (although as with most things, less the more rural the area is).
It’s long overdue.
It’s not “business friendly” so it’ll be DOA in Congress.
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Dems won’t fight for it, because there’s no donor money coming in as a reward for passage.
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Republicans will fight it aggressively, because they’ve got an enormous financial incentive to be seen as on the side of these corrupt business interests.
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State and municipal governments will claim they don’t have jurisdiction to set these rules locally, so we’ll never see a localized attempt to implement these rules and prove them out as useful.
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Any compromise that does squeak through will die in the courts. Judges will throw up injunctions and gut the language, because they see a path forward in their careers by siding with big business.
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Customers getting exploited by these laws will remain more fixated on immigration and foreign wars and abortion and national debts as hot-button issues, because the candidates in their districts simply won’t talk about this part of the platform.
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YouTubers, AM Radio shock jocks, and other shill influencers will make up elaborate conspiracy theories about why the rule is bad, because that’s what they’re paid to tell people.
Its the same fucking game every time.
Pretty wild that’s how a major bank can get away with treating their customers.
None dare say the words “Break up the monopolies”
I was in the Investment Banking Industry during the 2008 Crash and its aftermath and paid a lot of attention to what was done in the places with the largest Financial Industry companies (which most definitely includes the US) and the Democrats (at a time Obama was POTUS) were almost as much to given large Financial Institutions whatever they wanted with no restructuring and no conditions, as the Republicans.
Further, remember how Hilary Clinton suffered when running against Trump because just before starting her campaign she was personally paid half a million dollars to go give a speech to a bunch of Goldman Sach’s types.
(Interestingly, after his unconditional rescue and support for the Finance Industry, Obama too made a lot of money giving speeches to these types).
Even more, remember that the 2008 Crash was the result of Bill Clinton repealing the Glass-Steagal that kept Investment Banking separate from Retail Banking (and the consolidation you can see in that chart would not have been possible without it, since all of those you see above joining are Investment Banks that merged or bough Retail Banks or are Retail Banks that opened Investment Banking divisions).
The Democrats might be less prone to Fascism (though Biden’s undying love and military support for Genocidal ethno-Fascists shows it’s hardly a line they won’t cross so long the Fascism happens abroad) and indulging in Ultra-Conservative Moral Proms, but very few of them are there representing “The People” rather than representing those who can afford to buy them with non-executive board memberships, gold-plated consulting positions and millionaire speech circuit gigs.
If everyone was this pessimistic, nothing would ever happen.
This legislation will be popular enough that it might be political suicide to be against it. If it’s not poison pilled I bet it passes.
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Having worked for a major bank before in one of their customer service departments, I would typically get the brunt of it from people who had to navigate that labyrinth, it was sometimes just as easy for workers to get lost on the inside as people on the outside. Sometimes I thought it was just all poorly planned out and not necessarily out of any ill intent, but other times it seems like the whole thing was just designed that way to get people to quit trying. Sometimes we would go through with the customers through the whole dumb system ourselves just to make sure they were getting to the right place, but still run into all sorts of road blocks or find out later from the account notes that wherever we got them to still couldn’t help them. And it doesn’t help when customer service reps are being graded by their time on the phone, staying on a call longer than whatever the designated cycle time counts against customer service reps, so the motivation is to get people off your phone as quickly as possible.
Here’s a tip: you can go to a branch and have someone there dial the number for you. They have a special line for some problems with lower wait times. Plus, if they have to dial the normal line they know that exact buttons to press to get a person.
Bonus tip: you can use that visit to withdraw all your money and close your accounts, then take it to a credit union.
And coincidentally those minor improvements are only proposed a second before the election. Probably will never come through. Then you vote and then come another 4 years of tax cuts for the rich and money transfers to israel and the military.
We call this system a democracy, because you see, the power lies in the hands of the people. The power to tick a meaningless box that is.
You can’t take the politics out of politics. Of course the timing is suspect, and on average efforts to make changes like this don’t succeed. But occasionally they do, and now is a good time to start talking about them. Forcing Republicans to take stances on things before November is an excellent idea, because the Republican party itself is in the process of crumbling, and depending on the outcome of the election, there is a chance to pass legislation on various issues that would make life better for the average American.
As you point out, the whole process is totally messed up, politics is so dirty, large corporations and the ultra wealthy are so powerful. But on occasion we do see positive change, so we shouldn’t write it off as impossible or meaningless.
elections are not politics. they are a symbol that signifies absence. the big ones at least.
My asshole is bleeding only 22 out of 24 hours. I should be glad they didn’t fuck me more.
I got two hours to spare, thats if you’re down.
Telecommunications industry reform plz
Stop muddling fucking unrelated laws together in the same bill!!! This is why good shit doesn’t get passed.
These aren’t actually bills. The press release in question is documenting Rules that the mentioned agencies are proposing adding to the CFR, which is controlled by the executive branch (although Congress does have some oversight/ability to veto that has grown recently due to Conservatives wanting to curtail the ability of a Democratic executive to improve people’s lives without negotiating through a Republican controlled filibuster) and separate from the US that is the set of laws controlled by the legislative branch. And these are separate rules within the CFR, probably not related to each other at all except for both being mentioned in the same press release.
Gyms are ridiculous with their requirements to quit. When my Dad was alive, I needed to cancel his gym membership because he could barely walk and it just wasn’t necessary anymore. They required that he show up in person to cancel the membership. So I had to get my Dad out there in a wheelchair or walker or whatever we were using at the time just to cancel something that we should’ve been able to cancel over the phone.
Lucky you got to it while he was still alive. They probably would have still enforced this policy if he had died and not yet canceled.
I can’t think of anything that would get them to end the policy faster than the manager having to deal with someone dragging a corpse in there.
Or bring with you an urn, wether the victim is dead or not.
It was grandpa’s final wish to terminate this gym membership. He also wanted his ashes spread in the sauna.
“I will magnanimously cancel your pop pop membership and I’m happy to enroll your dog and you for our ash scattering program. The first hour is free and you can cancel anytime you want after only 45 years, even if Floofy dies, you can keep his membership as a souvenir. You’re welcome 🤗!”
Now do the USPS
Sadly the White House has little control over the USPS.
Probably someone in the Whitehouse tried to cancel a gym membership and couldn’t.
Good. Ok with them getting pissed off at the bullshit us commeners deal with. Do cable company cancelations next.
I wish they were still making videos
They are, they rebranded from college humor to Dropout.
At some point we might realise just how little power the greatest office on the planet actually has.
They have power, they just don’t use it in a way you want them to. They serve the oligarchs not you.
But the people do have the power to elect someone who is wlling to make change, bernie for example. Most people just dont vote for their best interest.
The people did vote for Bernie in the 2020 primaries, then the Democratic Party said they knew better than us and made Clinton the nominee anyways. And oopsy the two party system means you don’t get to vote for someone who represents you, just for the person who is slightly less evil.
That’s not what happened. People voted… for Hillary. She won the popular vote, that’s not the controversy. I mean it’s the made up controversy that people buy into. What happened as far as them playing kingmaker was that they put party support behind a candidate before the votes had been made. They nudged people to vote for her instead of being unbiased. They did vote for her though. She would have won without the super delegates, but people like to complain about bad things even when they aren’t what caused the bad outcome. I also think you mean 2016? Biden had the votes by a larger margin in 2020.
It’s hardly ubiversally popular - anyone seeling a aubscription will lobby against this, and banks are traditionally one of the biggest lobbies, only smaller than perhaps pharma and military suppliers.
I want custom debit cards again…
Does anyone have a link to this factual proposed idea? like a bill or anything?