Just dual boot…

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    First person to come up with a time machine, can you make your first trip back to the early 80s and buy 86-DOS and open source it before Bill gets his grubby hands on it?

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      It is pretty solid unless you are going way off the rails. There are a lot of reasons not to like it but stability is not one of them (unless you are talking about non changing)

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      I switched to Linux on a laptop of mine because an update to windows caused it to not boot.

      Now I get to deal with my keyboard backlight not working, sometimes the keyboard freezing on resume, my Bluetooth not connecting on the first try, and my wifi sometimes not working, but it boots fine every time.

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        Now I get to deal with my keyboard backlight not working

        Could I get that problem please? Pretty much any keyboard anymore comes with a backlight which I can’t even imagine being useful to anyone who can type. If they provide a way to turn it off, it’s via Windows-only software.

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        Have you tried different distros? Some hardware is supported better by different forks. I myself have an odd situation with an old laptop that got weird Bluetooth audio issues on stock Ubuntu, but having swapped it over to mint (which is supposedly just Ubuntu under the hood!) it works flawlessly.

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      Due to planned virtualisation in Windows this will probably soon be the case for people who Dual boot due to anticheat.

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        That would be awesome! There’s still the odd game I can’t run unrelated to anti cheat but that would still be a huge win.

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        Due to planned virtualisation in Windows

        I must have missed something. What are you referencing with this comment?

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              It seems quite likely actually. The only problem might be them noticing the benefit for GNU/Linux.

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            Perhaps I’m being dense but how do you see this helping Linux Gaming?

            Even assuming that VBS-E allows Game Devs to shift their current kernel based anti-cheat over to it there’s no guarantee that Linux will get a compatible VBS-E module nor that Game Devs would allow its use.

            I guess I see it as: If a Game Dev does this (use VBS-E) AND Linux gets a compatible module AND Game Devs allow its use THEN newer games may not have the same problem with anti-cheat as older ones.

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              The way I understand it is that every anticheat needs to be overhauled as they can no longer tap into the kernel/get kernel access. So the anticheat has to eun in userspace. This can also be done under GNU/Linux which is why anticheat should work on both platforms.

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                The way I understand it is that every anticheat needs to be overhauled as they can no longer tap into the kernel/get kernel access.

                Yes, if we assume that various institutions (cough cough looking at you EU) allow MS to remove kernel access.

                So the anticheat has to eun in userspace.

                VSB-E isn’t really “user space” but your point about the kernel is valid.

                hich is why anticheat should

                The word “should” is doing some heavy lifting in that sentence. Even if it COULD that doesn’t mean devs will allow it nor does it mean that existing games will get updated on EITHER platform. Removing a kernel level anti-cheat could easily be the death of some older games on Windows as the owner simply doesn’t want to put the money into making it work.

                I’m honestly not too sure how possible it is to make VSB-E work on *nix either, since it appears to use Microsoft Hyper-V technologies at its core and those wouldn’t be available in *nix. That means that we’d be back to Game Devs having to specifically write anti-cheat for *nix…which is something they can already do if they want.

                VSB-E is interesting but I’m not convinced its going to do anything for Linux Gaming at all. Hopefully I am wrong. :)

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      Out of curiosity what do you dual boot for? I used to dual boot for gaming but I’ve lately found that proton works very well with my games and there is no need to run Windows for anything

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        Yeah proton works really well for me for the vast majority of my games but there are a few that don’t. I dual boot solely to play those.

        • Star Citizen - much worse performance for me using Linux.
        • Cyberpunk - Used to work fine but started crashing on Linux for me
        • Counter Strike 2 - Audio cuts out after about 15 - 20 minutes on Linux.
        • Supreme Commander - Frequent crashes on Linux.

        I think people can run most of those fine but I haven’t had luck and don’t spend much time tinkering.

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    Windows 11? I have Windows 10 in dual but using Linux only, I just don’t want to remove everything even if Windows is shit… I’m only disappointed there’s no Affinity Designer on linux :( I know it’s full of alternatives but I like the UI and I’m used to it

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    Fusion360 is only software I use that I cannot get running on Linux. So my wife’s last macbook now lives to play Tidal in our garage and run NoMachine so I can remote into it for Fusion.

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    Adobe, OK. SolidWorks? Nah. NX is a higher-end CAD solution (costs more though) and runs on RHEL or SUSE

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      I miss NX. My company uses SolidWorks, and it’s…okay, I guess? But I’m aggravated on a weekly basis because it doesn’t do something that NX could. But cost is the issue. I think you can get like 5 SW licenses for the cost of a single NX one.

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      Yay! SolidWorks was literally the last thing keeping me on Windows

      Edit: Um, why does the Siemens website say it only supports the license server since 2020?

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        Not sure, they changed license server types recently for newest NX. But new server should support backwards. They have NX12 linux GUI version supported , latest NX release only runs Linux batch NX—for who know why

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    Man, we as a community really ought to put more effort and resources helping out FreeCAD.

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      I try to use dxf instead of dwg when I can, it’s got everything I need. I think the public sector should require open standards for submissions.

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      For me it’s all about learning freecad so I can look down upon the cloud cad peasants 😹

      For real though I completely agree. Freecad is just a plugin away from having a more accessible UI.

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        FreeCAD’s UI is good enough to work, but not to everyone’s taste. Personally, I detest the clown car UI of Fusion and it’s lack of customization for my work flow - custom pie menus rock. Something that FreeCAD allows the user to do. Not to mention the half-assed mix of local install/cloud that is Fusion360. It locks your projects in the cloud subject to AutoDesk’s whims, but eats your local storage. At least OnShape and TinkerCAD is all cloud and honest about it. But it’s all pay to play if you want access to the good stuff.

        They are improving the FreeCAD UI slowly. The Ondsel version, (based on the 0.22 Dev release), gets high marks from a lot of users about the UI design. Not my personal cup 'o tea, but I do see the allure for many users. Besides, if you don’t like how it works, you can easily customize things to your personal tastes.

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        the ui is actually pretty good when you get used to it imo, it’s just that it’s very busy and intimidating for beginners

        I think there should just be a simple builtin tutorial that beginners can access, that guides them through making a cylinder or something to assure them that freecad as intimidating as it looks

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          That’s a good idea, and I think that teaching yourself parametric CAD for the first time in freecad is extra difficult because it is easy to do things that look like they may work but actually break you model (especially dragging stuff around in the hierarchy).

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            Onshape and Fusion360 both have tons of great tutorials available, and they are completely free for non-commercial use. There is a reason those are used by almost everyone in the 3d printing community.

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              “And they are completely free for non-commercial use.” I have seen both of their “community” or “maker” tiers get worse over time; the terms of those licenses becoming less permissive. I’ve been told by an Autodesk employee that it doesn’t exist for Fusion360. “There is no free software here.” I suggest against building anything that matters to you against those platforms.

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          I’m a mechanical engineer and have spent literal years in front of Creo and SolidWorks. Trying to use FreeCAD felt like flying a Cessna 172 after being accustomed to a business jet; they can ostensibly get you where you need to go, but the cost in effort to use the tool is not worth the cost saved in buying the commercial tool.

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            totally get your point but I just don’t want to relearn the cad program when those proprietary options inevitably enshittify lmao

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        They’re both really good (considerably better at what they do than FreeCAD is, to be honest), but they don’t do what FreeCAD does. Blender is for art, so that’s a different thing entirely. OpenSCAD does mechanical part design, but it only does mechanical part design. FreeCAD can do architectural CAD, BIM (Building Information Modeling), civil engineering stuff (e.g. working with survey data/site elevation), FEA (Finite Element Analysis), 2D drafting, stuff with NURBS and point clouds, texturing/lighting/rendering, CAM and CNC (i.e. toolpaths for a mill or 3D printer), etc.

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      Ondsel

      They are really putting in the work to make FreeCAD not suck. I was a SolidWorks pro and still found FreeCAD quite unintuitive to use. Ondsel has fixed a lot of those issues… looking at you dimensioning tool. It also “just works” on Linux which is really nice (a friend tried on windows and not so much lol)

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    I used to pride myself in Linux uptime on my desktop. Went without rebooting for months at a time. Back then, I wouldn’t let myself dual boot

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      I’d be more worried about the windows bootloader deciding to overwrite grub

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      Ive literally never heard of that. Windows can overwrite grub/your bootloader though (easy fix, just boot into a live usb and reinstall grub).

      If Linux eats your Windows install that’s a serious bug. That means it’s overwritten data on a drive that’s not even mounted, without you directing it to do so.

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        Disclaimer: I’m not knowledgeable about the “under the hood” things on Linux OR Windows. I’ve just heard it can happen and really don’t want that for myself.

        But I guess anything can happen…

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      Windows randomly nuking the EFI partition is very much more a reality.

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        So it can go either way, they can both eat eachother?

        Does this happen even if they’re on separate harddrives?

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          I’ve never heard of Linux destroying a Windows partition unless there’s a blatant user error.

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    We just have to wait until Windows 12, the cloud OS, and dual boot will be no more. All that’ll be necessary is a browser and a fast internet connection. CoD and Valorant players though… dunno what to do about them. Pro gaming won’t be possible without running windows locally to get the highest framerate.

    Anti Commercial-AI license

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      The only way to prevent dual booting would require a UEFI/BIOS that pulls the OS straight over a network, bypassing local storage entirely.

      Even if that didn’t already rule it out, the size that OSes are these days makes it even less likely. At least not unless Microsoft (or whoever) are planning to ditch absolutely everyone who doesn’t have gigabit internet. (It would be kind of funny for an OS to go back to being 1990s-sized to mitigate that though. And funnier still when someone inevitably captures it onto a hard disk anyway.)

      A more likely vector would be to deliberately break third party bootloaders every time Windows boots. And that would last until the next anti-trust / monopoly lawsuit and they’d roll it back to the current behaviour of only breaking third party bootloaders on installation.

      And even if somehow that didn’t get rolled back, just wait until hardware vendors introduce this thing called a “switch” that can be added just before the power connector on an SSD. Can’t boot from a drive that has no power. BIOS defaults to the next SATA channel. And now you’re booting into Linux.

      Doing the same for a mobo-mounted NVMe drive is harder but not impossible.

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        Hmmmm, I think you interpreted my comment as microsoft trying to make dual booting impossible? I meant it wouldn’t be necessary anymore, because one would just require linux with a browser to access windows if need be.

        The simplest way I can imagine to forcefully disable dualbooting is do what Malus does: control the hardware and only allow one signed OS on there. Don’t trust anything else.

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          (FWIW the downvote wasn’t me)

          That sounds like you’re suggesting that Microsoft wouldn’t care what was installed locally to be able to net-boot / run the rest of Windows.

          I think it’s all but certain that they’d want user’s computers to to boot into something they made, or at the very least, slapped their branding all over, even if that was only a wrapper for their web browser.

          I can definitely see them going down the line of saying that their online apps aren’t guaranteed to work under any other system, going so far as to throw in a few deliberate stumbling hazards for anything that isn’t theirs. (Until anti-trust, etc.)

          And thus, dual booting will still be something that people do. Even if - as you clarified - they’re not going to cripple that as well.

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            I think it’s all but certain that they’d want user’s computers to to boot into something they made, or at the very least, slapped their branding all over, even if that was only a wrapper for their web browser.

            Oh yeah, absolutely. They might even make Edge send some additional data to verify that it’s the browser being used. They might even add attestation with a binary is pinging Microsoft with messages signed by a microsoft private unique per machine and generated when the user signs in. They could add a paid subscription to limit the number of devices connecting to the cloud instance. For an extra fee they could add connection “from any device or browser”.

            Or or or. There are a bunch of things they can do. They could also, as I said, just allow any browser to connect, but looking back, yeah, that’s probably naive.

            Who knows and who knows how fast (or slow) governments would react.

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    Dual booting is still using Windows.

    (I’m not saying dual booting is bad, I’m just saying it doesn’t count as not using Windows, which is what most Windows users are opposed to, not to dual-booting with Linux.)