Oh, so now I AM in a position to criticize the candidates that represent me, AND do so, but it’s… what, disqualified because I also defend them from the charge of being the MORE genocidal choice that will cause millions more deaths?
If you say “genocide is bad, we should stop defending it” and also “it’s understandable that Biden has not stopped defending it”, have you criticized him, or defended him? Is that a net-defend or a net-critique?
It’s a “Know what you are realistically going to be able to extract in this situation considering the current opinions of the general electorate”, but I guess being realistic comes second to condemning millions of minorities to death for the sake of feeling good about yourself.
I think actively denying what the electorate can see with their own eyes is what condemns minorities to their death, not condemning my government for assisting in genocide.
I think actively denying what the electorate can see with their own eyes is what condemns minorities to their death,
Okay, cool, then you do think that Israel’s ongoing genocide for the last 20 years hasn’t been recognized by the US electorate. Apparently, also according to you, that means you have a great deal of contempt for them.
He doesn’t realize that US military funding of Israel has been paused many times - including by Biden - as a lever to try to force change. That funding is the leverage we have over Israel. Fully halting it eliminates that leverage, and then what?
Also, the GOP has put forward legislation to remove the ability of the president to pause those deliveries, which also eliminates that leverage in a worse way. Biden has said he would veto that bill, by the way.
I’ve mentioned this before, as you well know, but it deserves mentioning again here. The fact that you can criticize Biden and there’s an outside chance he’ll listen makes him the better candidate than the guy who listens to nobody on anything that’s not about how to make him more money, with disregard to whether the money-making scheme is legal.
I’ve also said that the people who bark about this, only ever criticising Biden and Democrats, are either foreign propagandists or wholly taken by them. I stand by that statement.
He doesn’t realize that US military funding of Israel has been paused many times - including by Biden - as a lever to try to force change. That funding is the leverage we have over Israel. Fully halting it eliminates that leverage, and then what?
If only there was an international body charged with prosecuting international crimes, and if there was such a body, thank God it’s Biden in the white house and not Trump, who would surely obstruct bringing justice and pressure to the Isreali leaders conducting the war crimes.
If only it was domestically illegal to send weapons to foreign nations who were found to be using them to commit war crimes, that way at least Israel would know our hands were tied if they keep committing them
If only there was an international coalition of nations that could sanction Israel for committing war crimes. I’m sure if there was we would certainly not obstruct justice being brought there
If only the US had a functional military, so they could use it as a last resort to put an end to a literal fucking genocide.
What a sad reality we live in.
I’ve also said that the people who bark about this, only ever criticising Biden and Democrats, are either foreign propagandists or wholly taken by them. I stand by that statement.
Do you think Trump would relent if I was yelling at him to stop the genocide Biden was supporting?
Do you think republicans would listen to moralistic appeals to stopping genocide?
Are there even any full-throated republicans on lemmy?
This ‘why aren’t you complaining about republicans?!’ bullshit is a transparent deflection of responsibility from the people who are actively involved in the genocide. And I stand by that statement.
“I am in no position to criticize the candidates that represent me”
God knows I’ve never criticized Biden or Israeli genocide. /s
God knows you’ve never defended them, either.
Oh, so now I AM in a position to criticize the candidates that represent me, AND do so, but it’s… what, disqualified because I also defend them from the charge of being the MORE genocidal choice that will cause millions more deaths?
All-in or all-against, is it?
If you say “genocide is bad, we should stop defending it” and also “it’s understandable that Biden has not stopped defending it”, have you criticized him, or defended him? Is that a net-defend or a net-critique?
It’s a “Know what you are realistically going to be able to extract in this situation considering the current opinions of the general electorate”, but I guess being realistic comes second to condemning millions of minorities to death for the sake of feeling good about yourself.
I think actively denying what the electorate can see with their own eyes is what condemns minorities to their death, not condemning my government for assisting in genocide.
Okay, cool, then you do think that Israel’s ongoing genocide for the last 20 years hasn’t been recognized by the US electorate. Apparently, also according to you, that means you have a great deal of contempt for them.
I think it’s only been recognized in the small amount of time the state hasn’t had complete control over public messaging
I think the US state department has actively manipulated reporting on Israel to protect their state interest.
I think Biden will lose in november because the electorate isn’t as dumb as you and Biden think it is.
He doesn’t realize that US military funding of Israel has been paused many times - including by Biden - as a lever to try to force change. That funding is the leverage we have over Israel. Fully halting it eliminates that leverage, and then what?
Also, the GOP has put forward legislation to remove the ability of the president to pause those deliveries, which also eliminates that leverage in a worse way. Biden has said he would veto that bill, by the way.
I’ve mentioned this before, as you well know, but it deserves mentioning again here. The fact that you can criticize Biden and there’s an outside chance he’ll listen makes him the better candidate than the guy who listens to nobody on anything that’s not about how to make him more money, with disregard to whether the money-making scheme is legal.
I’ve also said that the people who bark about this, only ever criticising Biden and Democrats, are either foreign propagandists or wholly taken by them. I stand by that statement.
We fully halt it and team up with one of their enemies.
We tried the carrot, now it’s time for the stick.
If only there was an international body charged with prosecuting international crimes, and if there was such a body, thank God it’s Biden in the white house and not Trump, who would surely obstruct bringing justice and pressure to the Isreali leaders conducting the war crimes.
If only it was domestically illegal to send weapons to foreign nations who were found to be using them to commit war crimes, that way at least Israel would know our hands were tied if they keep committing them
If only there was an international coalition of nations that could sanction Israel for committing war crimes. I’m sure if there was we would certainly not obstruct justice being brought there
If only the US had a functional military, so they could use it as a last resort to put an end to a literal fucking genocide.
What a sad reality we live in.
Do you think Trump would relent if I was yelling at him to stop the genocide Biden was supporting?
Do you think republicans would listen to moralistic appeals to stopping genocide?
Are there even any full-throated republicans on lemmy?
This ‘why aren’t you complaining about republicans?!’ bullshit is a transparent deflection of responsibility from the people who are actively involved in the genocide. And I stand by that statement.