Or what Hillary said Dems would have done for the 06 Palestinian election:
Regarding the election, in which Hamas beat Fatah by 74 to 45 seats, Clinton said "I do not think we should have pushed for an election in the Palestinian territories. I think that was a big mistake. And if we were going to push for an election, then we should have made sure that we did something to determine who was going to win."
People literally die horrible deaths because of the “lesser of two evils”.
I’m not sure how bad it’s going to have to get before Democrats will vote Green, but I get the sense that by the time they’re willing to do so it will be too late anyway.
Problem is that the Green Party isn’t even on the ballot in most states, and the two first parties have made sure they can keep it that way.
I literally can’t register as a member of the green party because it’s not an option in my state. The only parties that can nominate candidates in my state are the Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, and Legalize Marijuana Now.
Even after the party told a judge they can’t be guilty of bias because a primary is nonbinding and the party can just ignore the results?
NH was doing that, then they got told they could either break their state election laws or not have their votes counted.
That’s not a rhetorical question, how do we move the Overton window when the party seizes power from the party and flat out says they’ll ignore results they don’t like if their cheating still prevents those results…
How are voters supposed to have any say in their candidates let alone moving the Overton window?
Hell, the party called this primary after what, five states held a primary?
And one of those literally didn’t count, but the party and Biden still spent a bunch of money to win a “write in campaign” and tried to make it sound like an underdog victory.
So we can get the presidency, the House, and the Senate?
We’ve done that, it doesn’t work out as well as you’d think…
We can’t just keep adding Dems, because lots of them are waaaay more “moderate” then their constituents. Because they’ve held office for decades.
For a healthy party, we need fair primaries. And we don’t get them anymore.
A few rotten apples spoil the bunch. We can’t just leave the rotten ones in there and try to outnumber the rotten ones. We need to get them the fuck out of the barrel.
We’ve done that, it doesn’t work out as well as you’d think…
Ah the “Biden had it for 2 years and we don’t have the Jetsons’ life!1! Dems bad!1!”.
Nevermind that he’s actually doing a fuckton, but dude things take time. They need to win consistently and overwhelmingly. Not just barely sneaking in a win, for 2/4 years of a presidency. Or Obama’s 2/8 years. Or the more sober Omaba’s 4 months/8 years for filibuster proof super majority, and Biden’s 0 months/4 years. That’s why the keywords are consistently and overwhelmingly.
Wait till you hear about operation Condor…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor
Or what Hillary said Dems would have done for the 06 Palestinian election:
https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Recording-released-of-Clinton-suggesting-rigging-2006-Palestinian-election-471129
Regardless of the party in charge, America does a lot of fucked up shit.
If you’re American and want it to stop, you can’t keep voting for people willing to start civil wars, rig elections, and fund genocides.
If we don’t have standards, we can’t act mad that our politicians have the same.
People literally die horrible deaths because of the “lesser of two evils”.
I’m not sure how bad it’s going to have to get before Democrats will vote Green, but I get the sense that by the time they’re willing to do so it will be too late anyway.
Problem is that the Green Party isn’t even on the ballot in most states, and the two first parties have made sure they can keep it that way.
I literally can’t register as a member of the green party because it’s not an option in my state. The only parties that can nominate candidates in my state are the Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, and Legalize Marijuana Now.
So you write them in and encourage everyone you know to do the same.
How does that work in States that have closed elections? Would their vote for the Green Party candidate still be valid or would it get thrown out?
I don’t think the green party is the right path. Especially if it involves Jill Stein
Bernie had it right, we have to save the Dem party before we can use it to save the country.
The problem is ever since Obama beat Hillary, the party keeps taking steps to prevent upsets against their picks, and no one seems to care.
After seeing what happened to Bernie, I find your assertion to be completely unreasonable.
You have to divorce yourselves from the Dems and their dark money if you want meaningful change.
Checks username. Yeah that checks out.
Some things are worth caring about.
What the people we vote into power do with that power is a pretty big one.
Move the Overton window. You don’t do that by protest no voting or voting third party. Move. The. Overton. Window.
How?
Vote progressive in the primary?
Even after the party told a judge they can’t be guilty of bias because a primary is nonbinding and the party can just ignore the results?
NH was doing that, then they got told they could either break their state election laws or not have their votes counted.
That’s not a rhetorical question, how do we move the Overton window when the party seizes power from the party and flat out says they’ll ignore results they don’t like if their cheating still prevents those results…
How are voters supposed to have any say in their candidates let alone moving the Overton window?
Hell, the party called this primary after what, five states held a primary?
And one of those literally didn’t count, but the party and Biden still spent a bunch of money to win a “write in campaign” and tried to make it sound like an underdog victory.
Give Dems consistent and overwhelming wins.
If they win consistently and overwhelmingly they can listen to the more left part of the party. If they don’t have that, then they need to run centre.
So we can get the presidency, the House, and the Senate?
We’ve done that, it doesn’t work out as well as you’d think…
We can’t just keep adding Dems, because lots of them are waaaay more “moderate” then their constituents. Because they’ve held office for decades.
For a healthy party, we need fair primaries. And we don’t get them anymore.
A few rotten apples spoil the bunch. We can’t just leave the rotten ones in there and try to outnumber the rotten ones. We need to get them the fuck out of the barrel.
Ah the “Biden had it for 2 years and we don’t have the Jetsons’ life!1! Dems bad!1!”.
Nevermind that he’s actually doing a fuckton, but dude things take time. They need to win consistently and overwhelmingly. Not just barely sneaking in a win, for 2/4 years of a presidency. Or Obama’s 2/8 years. Or the more sober Omaba’s 4 months/8 years for filibuster proof super majority, and Biden’s 0 months/4 years. That’s why the keywords are consistently and overwhelmingly.