• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    8 members of the Democratic caucus in the senate hate workers so much that they voted against increasing the minimum wage.

    Pretending that anyone who notices is "both sides"ing is insulting to the workers Democrats said they totally wanted to help and then betrayed.

    The party expects perfect lockstep from the electorate, but doesn’t care about voting with the party when it comes time for the elected to do what we voted them in for.

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      They don’t expect perfect lockstep from the electorate, they don’t even expect 41 out of 48 voters like they voted. They have literally never gotten it either.

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          Just checking here, what percentage of blue representatives voted for and what percentage of red representatives voted for? I think that’s where you’ll find the answer for why you vote blue no matter who, because people’s lives are on the line, not because they’re perfect. Then you harass that blue candidate, 'cause fuck those centrists. Still better than the fascists in the far right, though.

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            5 months ago

            Nice diversion. I answered your question about Democrats demanding lockstep behind even their shittiest anti-worker candidates.

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              I never asked you a question.

              Because the alternative is fascists, you dunce. You can’t move the needle left if there’s no needle. Vote blue no matter who has to do with not letting fascists take away our rights and kill women who need abortions.

              It’s not Democrats asking you to vote blue no matter who, it’s your fellow Americans who don’t want a fascist takeover. It’s common sense that shouldn’t even need a slogan.

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                You can’t move the needle left if there’s no needle.

                You don’t move the needle by being content, either. Which is why centrists are so fucking angry at people who aren’t pleased as fucking punch at all the deliberate failure of the second worst party.

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                  That’s why I wrote this

                  Then you harass that blue candidate

                  We have three powers of control over politicians

                  • vote

                  • protest

                  • media

                  That’s why they work so hard to take away, delegitimize or sow distrust in those powers. You want to move the needle left, you vote as left as possible and protest and harass them until they do what you want.

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                    You want to move the needle left, you vote as left as possible and protest and harass them until they do what you want.

                    And that’s exactly what I do. You have a problem with it.

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      You keep saying “Democrats” and “the party”

      Tell me, which party was it that voted in pefect lock step against? Surely by your statements it’s the Democrats…

      Oh? It’s not?

      Only 8 of the 48 Democrats voted against it?

      Well fiddly fee fuck me it sure seems both sides are the same and every Democrat hates workers and would never vote yes for a minimum wage increase

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        I didn’t vote for Republicans.

        I’m not being told that voting for more Republicans will totally get a minimum wage increase passed.

        We gave Democrats a majority. They found enough no votes. It’s what they do. In order to overcome the votes of those eight plus all Republicans we would need 59 Democrats in the Senate. And may as well make that an even 60 because Democrats won’t ever get rid of the filibuster.

        Of course both sides aren’t the same; that’s just something centrists say when people criticize Democrats in any way at all, because it’s easier than defending the party’s deliberate uselessness.