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      7 months ago

      Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

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        7 months ago

        I don’t understand why people in the US fall for that take. Socialism did take root in the US - that’s the whole reason they had to invent police and alphabet organisations to crush it.

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                7 months ago

                Absolutely. Americans can, to a limited degree, hide behind the excuse that they are the most propaganda-drenched people on the planet.

                Can you?

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                  7 months ago

                  It’s a ~famous quote. Do you think a quote reflects my personal views on something? Should I perhaps go about and edit quotes to my liking?

                  Secondly, “take root” is ofc metaphorical, and we could argue the semantics of what constitutes “taking root”. It’s clear that at the very least if it took root, it lost to some degree to another thing that took root (like a corporate kleptocracy) and while no-country is perfect clearly the countries with much better social programs has had this metaphorical plant of socialism bloom a bit more.

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                    Should I perhaps go about and edit quotes to my liking?

                    No. Just pick ones that actually stand up to scrutiny. I guess you don’t know where the term “redneck” (as it’s used in the US, of course) actually comes from, do you?

                    It’s clear that at the very least if it took root, it lost to some degree

                    Absolutely not. It was actively destroyed. Do you really think they invented internal political police organisations like the FBI to “fight crime”?