Well there are only three isps here and yes I understand what you are saying but. It never gets as far as government force it doesn’t have too. The ISP will drop me.
Also the ISP is the media company lots of the time, and its only a crime that will go to court and win if I made money distributing copyrighted material.
I don’t want my ISP to know much about what I’m doing either. They aren’t trustworthy, they often get caught illegally shaping traffic and such too.
Yeah see you’re missing the point, which is: While Government and corporate power are to be feared, your ISP is powerless without Government. You want to protect yourself from both.
The ISP will drop me.
Why? That’s losing them money. Seems stupid of them. Because the government forces them to on behalf of another company.
its only a crime
Government determines what a crime is.
that will go to court
The court is the application of government force, and the government is who will get the evidence that turns you from defendant to convict.
and win if I made money distributing copyrighted material.
Oh sweet summer child. I will never understand how that myth remains after the RIAA campaigns.
Don’t condescend to me. I understand the link between government and capital and am not an american.
What are you even proposing anyways? I am against government oppression and copyright law in general. All private property is theft from the commons. But in the meantime I will use a VPN because I trust Mullvad in Sweden more than I trust my own ISPs.
If I was committing crimes that were more serious then I would not use a VPN I would use a more robust security model.
My ISP is not powerless without government. They have massive power, they control 1/3rd of all cellular and internet communications. And like I said also control large amounts of satellite TV and cable broadcasting.
Sorry, I thought we were discussing my reply to the comment about (paraphrasing) “I’ve never feared a government, but corporations scare me.” Which is why I focused on that side of things.
I don’t think I said anything that doesn’t apply to non Americans, but ok.
The court cases stuff which is where you also called me a sweet summer child. And yeah the whole thread we were kinda talking crops purposes so oh well.
I mean, you’ve got to realize that almost everywhere in the world, the idea that avoiding prosecution because you’re not profiting from IP infringement is a myth, which was my point there.
But fair enough, maybe you’re somewhere that won’t enforce copyright.
Well there are only three isps here and yes I understand what you are saying but. It never gets as far as government force it doesn’t have too. The ISP will drop me.
Also the ISP is the media company lots of the time, and its only a crime that will go to court and win if I made money distributing copyrighted material.
I don’t want my ISP to know much about what I’m doing either. They aren’t trustworthy, they often get caught illegally shaping traffic and such too.
Yeah see you’re missing the point, which is: While Government and corporate power are to be feared, your ISP is powerless without Government. You want to protect yourself from both.
Why? That’s losing them money. Seems stupid of them. Because the government forces them to on behalf of another company.
Government determines what a crime is.
The court is the application of government force, and the government is who will get the evidence that turns you from defendant to convict.
Oh sweet summer child. I will never understand how that myth remains after the RIAA campaigns.
https://www.eff.org/wp/riaa-v-people-five-years-later
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_group_efforts_against_file_sharing#Lawsuits_against_individuals
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/minnesota-woman-ordered-to-pay-222000-in-music-piracy-case-236366/
Besides, even if you win you lose. Lawyers are expensive.
Don’t condescend to me. I understand the link between government and capital and am not an american.
What are you even proposing anyways? I am against government oppression and copyright law in general. All private property is theft from the commons. But in the meantime I will use a VPN because I trust Mullvad in Sweden more than I trust my own ISPs.
If I was committing crimes that were more serious then I would not use a VPN I would use a more robust security model.
My ISP is not powerless without government. They have massive power, they control 1/3rd of all cellular and internet communications. And like I said also control large amounts of satellite TV and cable broadcasting.
Sorry, I thought we were discussing my reply to the comment about (paraphrasing) “I’ve never feared a government, but corporations scare me.” Which is why I focused on that side of things.
I don’t think I said anything that doesn’t apply to non Americans, but ok.
The court cases stuff which is where you also called me a sweet summer child. And yeah the whole thread we were kinda talking crops purposes so oh well.
I mean, you’ve got to realize that almost everywhere in the world, the idea that avoiding prosecution because you’re not profiting from IP infringement is a myth, which was my point there.
But fair enough, maybe you’re somewhere that won’t enforce copyright.