I always assumed credit scores were an integral and historic part of the American financial system.

They were not, they are very recent,most of your parents didn’t have credit scores growing up, and as you can probably tell or at least intuit, it’s mostly just a b******* scheme for those with capital to accrue more capital by invading your privacy.

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    6 months ago

    In Norway having loads of credit cards is negative for getting a house loan as it is potential debt that goes against your payment ability for the house loan.

    Meaning we do have a credit score system for getting loans and more stuff on various credit solutions, but credit cards works against larger loans.

    Which can be a pain in the ass when you want to buy a house/apartment and have credit cards that might deny you the last bit of money to win the bidding war…

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      6 months ago

      That seems like a reasonable approach though, unless I’m missing something. If you need “loads of credit cards” then you’re already but living within your means.

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            Store offers 0% on items you need, appliances, bedroom furniture. You’re going to spend thousands and they let you pay that shit over the course of 12 or 24 months. To me it’s a no-brainer. Only downside is I can’t use my Raynour & Flannigan card at Best Buy or Home Depot, so I need their cards too.

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              6 months ago

              I hope this is satire… because that’s not how you are supposed to use credit cards if you want to have a good credit score.

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                6 months ago

                It was a response to someone asking why one would accumulate multiple cards. It’s a reason. I’ve done it. I have 800+ credit score. Guess it worked out. I think the most important factors are paying your shit down fast and maintaining a good ratio of high available credit with low usage. At this point I’m at three or four cards and one or two other lines of credit. In the past, it’s been more of each.

                Basically, you don’t get a good score by not using credit.

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                  Nothing wrong with having 3 cards, in fact that seems to be the sweet spot. Closing cards is never good so you don’t want to just go around willy nilly opening up cards.

                  You are absolutely right in that you have to use it to have a good score, but you have to use it wisely. Maintain a low balance, don’t allow cards to go dormant, keep requesting increases to available credit every 6 months so that your utilization will be minimized, and diversify your portfolio with three cards, and at least one line of credit that you never use, and a revolving account like a car or home once you are ready. Sounds like you figured out their formula, congrats on the 800+.

                  I was 812 until I bought a house, and that knocked me down to 760. Everything I read indicates that It will take at least 5 years of making extra payments on my house for me to get back to 800+, not that it really matters because the only reason I needed a high score in the first place was to get the house.

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                Lol why not? I did the same thing when I bought a washer and dryer and my score is over 750. I had the cash to pay it outright but why spend it when Home Depot will finance it for free?

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        6 months ago

        If you have a bunch of recently opened cards with like $500-$1000 credit limits, that’s not great, but if you have several high limit cards that you are only using a small percentage of that limit, that is good.

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      6 months ago

      Lol this is such a load of bs being taken at face value. No, having credit cards in Norway isn’t bad. They judge your rating by your debt, and responsible credit card usage does not create debt. This reads like it’s written by someone who doesn’t understand how credit works, regardless of country.

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        6 months ago

        Not sure if you misunderstood the post. What they write is how it works in Norway. If you have two credit cards with 50k credit limit each, then that count as 100k debt when the bank calculates your ability to pay off a loan, it doesnt matter if you haven’t used them.

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        6 months ago

        I have to imagine credit ratings are fairly ubiquitous, since banking is international, and who’s giving the money out? Would make no sense to penalize someone for having a lot of available credit. Maybe if you have 10 cards with low available credit, and they’re all maxed out and you’re just paying minimums, that’s bad. That’s bad in America too. Amount of available credit less amount of credit used seems to be a big factor.