In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn’t feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?

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    7 months ago

    Then maybe don’t make them rely on external servers? Your car has a computer, put the server there.

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      7 months ago

      How would you accomplish that? IPv6 is available for only half the world, and no ISP is going to hand out dedicated IP addresses to cars. Even with peer to peer technologies you need some kind of external server for STUN/TURN. The best you can probably do is Bluetooth, but that’s spotty and unstable inside the car, let alone outside it where the metal frame gets in the way of its own antenna.

      Beside all that, with how absolutely terrible car companies are at providing software updates and writing code, I’d rather have a pull based cloud API thing than a server implementation full of security holes.

      In a perfect world you could host your own server for this functionality so you can keep using your car even if the manufacturer takes their shit offline, but lacking that I think I’d rather have no service features than rely on server daemons running inside the car.

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        Beside all that, with how absolutely terrible car companies are at providing software updates and writing code, I’d rather have a pull based cloud API thing than a server implementation full of security holes.

        But you have that, except on one central server.

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          One central server is easier to update and secure than thousands of cars. Now you have two security boundaries instead of a hundred.

          You can also easily upgrade servers whereas software updates to cars are all done by expensive mechanics (unless you push the over the internet, but then you’re back to having to host a server anyway), and you don’t need to worry about murdering flash storage like Tesla accidentally did or maintain knowledge and workarounds for the terrible custom compiler for the shit tier SoC that was certified for automotive.