Ah yeah, an enlightened centrist meme, coming directly from the deranged minds that think trying to take the middle road when one the sides is blatantly against human rights is a moderate position.
This is obviously a leftist meme making fun of liberal and conservative fighting. It’s from the perspective of someone to the left of liberals, not between liberals and conservatives.
That makes more sense. I was wondering why they were both saying the same thing when typically you’d expect liberals and conservatives to be arguing. Those to the left of liberals see everyone as “liberal,” as in free markets and whatever, not political left/right, or at least the hexbear folks do.
Took me a bit longer than I’d like to admit to get what they were going on about when everyone was called liberal lol
Not worth engaging with the “centrist are evil” people. They just cant accept other pov’s that arent theirs, specially if it implies their side should make a compromise. Im pretty sure they hate even more non partisan people rather than the team party they are suposed to hate because that is thinking outside the box and they dont like that very much.
Imo thats just a result of the partisan american culture war bullshit doing its intended purpose: divide and conquer.
To bad most of the media comes from hollywood and a lot of us non american people get indirectly involved in their bullshit.
dyed purple hair is a right-wing dogwhistle for “SJW man-hating feminist”, who are more often leftists than they are liberals. You don’t have any issues with social justice or feminism, do you?
Well, the rich seems to like the stuff the batshit insane right are spewing. Plus, they also benefit from those policies, like abortion bans, child labor law regressions, and of course tax cuts for those earning 6 figures at minimum.
America’s “left” is also not fighting these insane policies effectively. It’s like they’re pointing fingers at the GOP and going “Hey, that’s bad.”
I’m not sure why centrism is so hated here. As long as you acknowledge one side is more damaging I don’t see a problem with it. The other side might have less problematic views but they both subsist off of each other and thrive by creating vitriol between each other. It shouldn’t be taboo to not support either one. This meme doesn’t even really seem like its attempting to make that point anyway, although I understand how you could see it that way.
Being between two ideologies is not a virtue in and of itself. Refusing to align with either of 2 generally shitty Capitalist parties, and being a centrist, are completely different things.
It depends on why you aren’t supporting either party. If it’s because the libs are too radical and the conservatives are too fascist, then you’re a centrist liberal. If you’re legitimately outside the scope of those two, such as to the left (or somehow to the right), then you aren’t a centrist.
Being extreme isn’t wrong either. The strength of a position with respect to current society says nothing about the founding logic for said position. Climate change, for example, must be radically acted on to prevent even worse results from happening, and it must happen now or we will suffer even more.
I don’t support either one because in many ways I think they are effectively the same. My views are certainly more in line with liberals and I think they are much less directly harmful than conservatives, but the parties themselves are more or less the same to me.
Neither of them effectively push the policy I want, and both purposely create an unnecessary divide between each other. They both need the other to be the antagonist to continue creating this strange dramatic version of politics.
Parts of my family refuses to speak to one another purely because of this. Their views aren’t even that far off from each other, but neither of them actually understand each other’s views. All they understand is the manufactured hate between each other.
Again, I think conservatives usually cause the most problems, but the other party can’t exist in its current form without someone to be angry at. There is no actual motive to stop the problems from being caused, so they are only amplified and worsened.
Both are actively creating a worse place to live in, and I wouldn’t support either one regardless of whatever views they claim to have.
Okay, so it sounds like you’re a leftist, and likely to agree that the bourgeoisie deliberately pits the Proletariat against itself as a means to prevent unified action.
If you acknowledge one side as worse than another it isn’t centrist. That would be taking a position.
The fence sitting of centrists say both sides are bad and not dealing with issues is why centrists are hated. They don’t offer anything other than the ‘Both Sides’ argument.
At least that in what I have gathered my observations.
I understand the dislike for people that take no position whatsoever, but the hate for centrism I’ve seen extends beyond that. I’ve been called an enlightened centrist for simply not supporting either party, but I guess that might just mean those people were mistaken.
Ah yeah, an enlightened centrist meme, coming directly from the deranged minds that think trying to take the middle road when one the sides is blatantly against human rights is a moderate position.
This is obviously a leftist meme making fun of liberal and conservative fighting. It’s from the perspective of someone to the left of liberals, not between liberals and conservatives.
That makes more sense. I was wondering why they were both saying the same thing when typically you’d expect liberals and conservatives to be arguing. Those to the left of liberals see everyone as “liberal,” as in free markets and whatever, not political left/right, or at least the hexbear folks do.
Took me a bit longer than I’d like to admit to get what they were going on about when everyone was called liberal lol
Nah that’s common to leftism in general.
They’re both saying the same thing because their pants are full of crap
Calling out Capitalists as the greatest evil, isnt the centerist take you think it is…
Not worth engaging with the “centrist are evil” people. They just cant accept other pov’s that arent theirs, specially if it implies their side should make a compromise. Im pretty sure they hate even more non partisan people rather than the team party they are suposed to hate because that is thinking outside the box and they dont like that very much.
Imo thats just a result of the partisan american culture war bullshit doing its intended purpose: divide and conquer.
To bad most of the media comes from hollywood and a lot of us non american people get indirectly involved in their bullshit.
This reads to me like a fairly leftist meme though, just more on the classical Marxist side.
Maybe redrawn where purple hair is trying to get at the rich guy, and Red Hat is getting in the way
Are you saying that If i dye my hair purple people will automatically assume I’m an anti capitalist leftists and not a liberal?!? Lol
dyed purple hair is a right-wing dogwhistle for “SJW man-hating feminist”, who are more often leftists than they are liberals. You don’t have any issues with social justice or feminism, do you?
Not in the slightest, that’s literally why i didnt see any issue sharing this meme…
Seriously, Democrats support fascism
Well, the rich seems to like the stuff the batshit insane right are spewing. Plus, they also benefit from those policies, like abortion bans, child labor law regressions, and of course tax cuts for those earning 6 figures at minimum.
America’s “left” is also not fighting these insane policies effectively. It’s like they’re pointing fingers at the GOP and going “Hey, that’s bad.”
But it’s never gonna get any better, it’ll only get worse from here - be happy with what you got.
I’m not sure why centrism is so hated here. As long as you acknowledge one side is more damaging I don’t see a problem with it. The other side might have less problematic views but they both subsist off of each other and thrive by creating vitriol between each other. It shouldn’t be taboo to not support either one. This meme doesn’t even really seem like its attempting to make that point anyway, although I understand how you could see it that way.
Being between two ideologies is not a virtue in and of itself. Refusing to align with either of 2 generally shitty Capitalist parties, and being a centrist, are completely different things.
I’ve been called a centrist for simply not supporting either party, so I was under the impression that was a common way of thinking about it.
Using that definition of centrism, I don’t actually disagree with anything that was said here.
It depends on why you aren’t supporting either party. If it’s because the libs are too radical and the conservatives are too fascist, then you’re a centrist liberal. If you’re legitimately outside the scope of those two, such as to the left (or somehow to the right), then you aren’t a centrist.
Being extreme isn’t wrong either. The strength of a position with respect to current society says nothing about the founding logic for said position. Climate change, for example, must be radically acted on to prevent even worse results from happening, and it must happen now or we will suffer even more.
I don’t support either one because in many ways I think they are effectively the same. My views are certainly more in line with liberals and I think they are much less directly harmful than conservatives, but the parties themselves are more or less the same to me.
Neither of them effectively push the policy I want, and both purposely create an unnecessary divide between each other. They both need the other to be the antagonist to continue creating this strange dramatic version of politics.
Parts of my family refuses to speak to one another purely because of this. Their views aren’t even that far off from each other, but neither of them actually understand each other’s views. All they understand is the manufactured hate between each other.
Again, I think conservatives usually cause the most problems, but the other party can’t exist in its current form without someone to be angry at. There is no actual motive to stop the problems from being caused, so they are only amplified and worsened.
Both are actively creating a worse place to live in, and I wouldn’t support either one regardless of whatever views they claim to have.
Okay, so it sounds like you’re a leftist, and likely to agree that the bourgeoisie deliberately pits the Proletariat against itself as a means to prevent unified action.
You’ve already passed the point where “both sides are equally bad” is reductive to your analysis.
I call out centrism because its almost always a right wing poster who knows they are wooing the undecided voter.
If you acknowledge one side as worse than another it isn’t centrist. That would be taking a position.
The fence sitting of centrists say both sides are bad and not dealing with issues is why centrists are hated. They don’t offer anything other than the ‘Both Sides’ argument.
At least that in what I have gathered my observations.
I understand the dislike for people that take no position whatsoever, but the hate for centrism I’ve seen extends beyond that. I’ve been called an enlightened centrist for simply not supporting either party, but I guess that might just mean those people were mistaken.
Did you offer a third opinion or did you just call them both bad?
You already answered why m8.